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Hello all!

Thankyou for the welcomes!

I was interested in the looks of this dog, and another particular one I saw on instagram. They look so beautiful

 

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Hi

If you're going to be working with an Australian breeder, here's the Poodle Breed Standard there
Detail (ankc.org.au)

It's likely to be very similar to any major Kennel Club's worldwide, and the standards are usually determined by breed clubs.

National Poodle Council

Ms Susie Kearnes, Secretary
4 Marlow Place
Campbelltown NSW 2560
Phone: 0412 496 460 (b.h.)
Email: nationalpoodlecouncil@gmail.com

Mrs Kay Wright, President
3 Ridgecrop Drive
Castle Hill NSW 2154
Phone: 0422 967 957 (b.h.)
Email: wright_family5@iinet.net.au

You'll want to become familiar with the health testing required or recommended by whichever entity is responsible for determining that. The Kennel Club or the Poodle Council are likely to have breeder member lists or referral sources.

Australian National Kennel Council (ankc.org.au)

Codes of Practice for owners, breeders, judges, and health
Code of Practice (ankc.org.au)

Thankyou so much for this I will read and check it out!

 

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Another thing I've noticed is that the way a poodle is groomed makes a big difference in how their snout looks. The longer and fluffier the ears and top knot, the more long and exaggerated their snout looks when it is cleanly shaved. If they have shorter ears and top knot their snout looks less narrow. My dog also looks much pointier when she is recently shaved and blockier when she's grown out her face a bit more.

I noticed that too in before and after photos of standard poodle grooming photos! I love a little bit of hair on the face!

 

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Thankyou all for your replies!

When you got your standard poodles, was there something specific you were after?
Also, random q but do you have to shave the face completely down for a poodle?

 

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You certainly don't have to shave their face down or keep it shaved. You'll be able to see dogs with shaggier faces in photos here and online, and you can look up 'retriever clip standard poodle' if you aren't into the shaved face classic poodle style. That's just one option.

A lot of folks here like the clean face for different reasons - it's easier to see my dog's expressive face and eyes, and food doesn't get caught in her beard so it's less smelly and more hygienic. Also when her face is shaved she doesn't get mistaken for a doodle, which I like. However, I don't shave her face as often as some others, and let her grow for maybe two months between shaves.

The dog in the video you linked might be thicker than typical in the face but her groom also just looks overgrown (like her face was prob clipped a month or so ago) and she is overweight, so it's hard to see her structure easily. She's an older dog at 11 though so that may be part of it, but just to say that she appears to be heavier than is typical for healthy an adult poodle. But if you like the thicker look, don't mind a lot of brushing, and live somewhere where the dog can tolerate summer in a long shaggy coat, you can maintain a longer style on a lean dog.

Thankyou for the response!
Do poodles get smelly? My current mix doesn’t smell at allll and I am getting very used to and comfortable with that

 

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Here is my dog with a furry face and then with a clean face. I prefer clean face for cleanliness and because I like to see my dog's expressions. The muzzle does look much heavier when kept furry.

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Sooooooo cute! Do they usually have floofy ears or did you shave ?

 

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Oh. I should probably show off his hobo look:
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Ignore his outfit...he was going through a phase...

Tried to find some overgrown puppy photos to compare with Evelyn's overgrown adult photos and came to the conclusion he always looked like a hobo between grooms!

So here's a shaped puppy photo shortly after a groom:
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The above would not work well with his adult coat texture imo. But Evelyn is not the best representative of the breed as he has like four different coat textures going on. My boy is a sweetheart, but well bred he is not.

I think he has improper head structure too...:
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Lol. The joys of taking pictures of a white dog in a white apartment. The above is the best I can find. His current look is deceiving as I just groomed him...poorly.

He is very beautiful

 

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The length and upkeep of the hair makes a surprising difference in how the dog looks. I normally take my dogs to the groomer every 4 to 6 weeks. Galen missed his last groomer appointment because he had an upset stomach.. He now looks like a different dog with a much coarser head.

Clean, well groomed Galen:
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Dirty, ungroomed Galen:
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The brown stains around his mouth also illustrate why most people prefer to keep the facial hair short. Galen is a 1 1/2 year old blue dog. He should have a silvery grey ring of hair around his eyes and nose right now. (Eventually all his hair will turn grey.) Instead he has a brown ring.

Dog saliva and dog tears contain porphyrins that will stain the hair. Galen's upset stomach made him drool and lick his lips a lot for several days. The porphyrins in all that saliva stained his hair brown. He would look like an old man with a tobacco stained mustache if I tried to put him in a teddy bear trim right now. The next time he goes in for his grooming they will shave his face again. All the disgusting stained hair will be gone, and he will have his pretty silver face again.

Very cute! How long is the hair on the head? Can it go lower than that?

 

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Can we see pictures of your other dog just for the eye candy?

Ofcourse! Doing a DNA test on him soon to find out his exact mix

 

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Welcome! Can you share photo examples?

I am kind of struggling to find photos online! A lot have very thin and sharp snouts

I found these on google but not very clear

 

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Same poodle. Pointy vs. not pointy.

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omg!! he/she is sooooo beautiful!!!!!!

 

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I find that most poodles look great without hair. I have seen many that are regularly shaved down with a 10 blade. The above photo of mine above with a fluffy face had the top of the head shaved with a 10 and had a fluffy face. Here is mine with an all over short cut.

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I am not familiar with blade names! Your dog is so beautiful! ist that the natural length of a poodle tail? I am aware some are docked.

 

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My experience has been that poodles are not very smelly dogs - in terms of getting the "doggy" smell that some dogs have. But a dirty, unwashed poodle, especially with a longer coat, will pick up the smells of the world. That is one of the advantages of keeping the coat shorter - it is easier to rinse them off and they dry off faster when they get in the mud or roll in something smelly. Oona, my poodle, smells great since I bathed her two days ago after she rolled in something gross and came home smelling sewage-y. I should bathe her more often because my allergies have also been way better since her bath - she had been holding a lot of pollen and dust in her coat. A long coat also carries in bits of leaves and grass which can make a mess of your house. The poodle coat is a lot to deal with, honestly, but there are more minimal approaches you can take which would maybe mean keeping it at an even short-medium length, and would still involve brushing out several times a week and bathing at least monthly (or more as needed). The longer the coat, the more work it is to maintain, and you can let it grow but if you don't take care of it your dog will get matted (and smelly) and need to be shaved down anyway.

oh wow! ok I have to prepare myself my current dog isnt the type that gets dirty or roll in mud haha
so other than the grooming/trim/cut every 4-6 weeks, you have to brush the coat daily right?

 

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Also, can someone please let me know the type of poodle breeders there are out there? Is it only showline / assistance service / therapy? i am curious to see if the working ones would look differant

 

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Thankyou guys for the response!
Anyone here from australia can share their experience with their breeder?

 

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I believe tail docking is no longer allowed in Australia, so a dog imported from there should have a full length tail.

That’s good to know! I am not a fan or supporter of docking a dogs tail

 

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Hi there! SPOOs are awesome. I currently have a 10 and 1/2 yr old Apricot and a 6 mos old Black. Both females. I also had the mom and litter sister of my older girl. My 2 girls are due for grooming in a couple weeks. They grow out fast. View attachment 480979 View attachment 480980 View attachment 480981 View attachment 480983 View attachment 480989 View attachment 480991

Btw can poodles see when they have hair above there eyes? is it possible just to shave above the eyes for them to see, or must the whole face be shaved?

 

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My pup has both full tail and dew claws as neither are allowed to be cut where I live.
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what are dew claws?
long tail on poodle looks so cute, kind of sad that they dock it in some countries!

 

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Dewclaws are the fifth toe of a dog’s foot positioned on the inside of the legs. Dewclaws function similarly to the human thumb and are fundamental for a poodle when navigating slippery terrain, sprinting, or gripping onto objects.

Dogs have 4 toes on each paw, and a 5th nail that is high on the paw (so high it could be dubbed "on the ankle" or "on the lower limb"). This is just a soft nail when a Poodle is a puppy. However, if not removed, as the Poodle grows older the base of the dewclaw actually grows into an extra digit, flesh, nerves and all.

My boys both still have theirs and I can say that they definitely do function. When Remo grabs onto my leg with both of his legs, his dew claw is strong and fully operational when grabbing on.
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wow this is so interesting i never knew about this, thanks for sharing!