[Rose n Poos]

Thinking of you and Kiwi thru the night and hoping.

 

[cowpony]

I hope Kiwi is doing well today. Watch for vomiting, especially if nothing comes up. That's a common symptom of a bowel obstruction.

 

[lily cd re]

If you can get lots of water on board and give a few small meals to give the gut some fuel to move things along Kiwi will probably be just fine without surgery. Lily is a notorious consumer of napkins, paper towels, my underwear and so forth. I used to call the vet for everything weird that disappeared down her throat. The advise was always the same. Induce vomiting with hydrogen peroxide if you saw her just eat this odd thing (BTW give the peroxide while you are outside. If anything is going to come up it will be very fast.). Alternatively if it is too late to try getting her to vomit give something dry like crackers a few at a time and have plenty of water available and wait it out. Those two strategies have always worked and I have picked up lots of poo with hair scrunchies, napkins and all sorts of odd things in it. She is 12 so clearly these things are very survivable (and with very little trouble). I don't call the vet anymore. I would only do so if I saw signs of obstructions (inappetive behavior, vomiting or other clear distress). If you are worried then follow the vet's advise above all else since we aren't vets. Best wishes for a speedy return to normal.

 

[114977]

Hoping to hear good news today.

 

[Olive Love]

Hoping for good news. This is very unfortunate but accdidents happen. Has Kiwi been at the vet overnight? Has the vet called you yet? I think that if the vet says surgary is the only option, follow the advice. I will be thinking of you and Kiwi today.

 

[Kiwimom]

We took kiwi home later last night! animal poison control hotline suggested dogs over 5 pounds can pass the cherry pits themselves, and it’s very unlikely he chewed the pits to get poisoned. So they suggested to wait and see, and that’s what we decided to do, tthe vet in emergency says we could do an x-ray but that means he’ll need to be sedated because he is a very energetic puppy. I want to avoid he go through as little as possible so we decided to wait to see.

when we got home last night, we were instructed to give Kiwi some medicine (Sulcrate) through syringe, guessed what, Kiwi became that crazy biting dog again, real biting with all teeth out. I think he is really traumatized by we sticking the hydrogen 3% down his throat last night....
both of me and my husband couldn’t fall asleep last night, we were monitoring him closely, be he was normal, and waited this morning to get up the same time as us, what a good boy!

we fed him fiber rich can food that provided by the vet this morning, he loves it as we never fed him wet food before. He went to do his normal morning business and we found 9 cherry pits in his poop! About half of the amount he consumed.

and lunch time same thing, he passed another 4 pits, I am hoping by evening, he’ll pass all of them.

what a night! I am glad this turned out to be no big deal, thank you for all your wishes, poodleforum is a wonderful place! Now we are working on his trust with us, he is definitely traumatized...

 

[lily cd re]

I am glad to hear things are turning out well with no surgery. As to getting him past the upsets of all that happened yesterday just go back to basics on the things that helped him settle down earlier when you had the problems with him not wanting to have his harness on and off and those other issues (I don't recall all that was happening). Add having your hands in and near his mouth to his list of things he accepts. When our dogs were puppies we played touch you games every day and probably they each got that game twice a day since we both did it. We would touch every part of their bodies (all four feet, each toe, tail, ears and we would take their muzzles and at the least lift lips but also open mouths). When they were young we made it all very silly with happy voice, plenty of little treats and goofy orders like "let me see your snarly teeth!" We still play those games a couple of times each week for all of the dogs who are 12, 12 and 5 years old. In other words it is a lifelong investment in a little time when things are calm so you can still do what you need to when things are chaotic. As a result I can get forbidden things out of dogs' mouths as they are just about to be swallowed and I never have any problems giving medications.

 

[Rose n Poos]

I'm so happy to hear that everything is coming out well! (pun not intentional)
For the rest, as lily cd re said, time, patience and practice will get you all there.

 

[Skylar]

Wonderful news. I’m so happy for you and Kiwi.

Do follow Lily cd re recommendations. There’s nothing better than having a dog who is comfortable with all parts of their body being touched both for grooming and emergencies.

 

[PeggyTheParti]

This is great news! We're all on cherry pit watch with you so thanks for keeping us posted.

You should talk to your vet about this for the future, to make sure it's safe with Kiwi, but when we had to induce vomiting in Peggy, I had the most success mixing the hydrogen peroxide with something yummy. I'd read about using vanilla ice cream, but didn't have any, so I mixed a little sugar in with plain yogurt. She lapped it all up quite happily, and it actually worked, unlike the time we administered straight peroxide with a syringe.

 

[lily cd re]

Peggy I don't think it is the best strategy to add more volume to the dog's digestive tract when inducing vomiting. I realize you read that as a suggestion but I would not do something like that. The point is to empty their belly and if they ate a lot of something bad and they are agitated by all that is happening it seems like a way that there might end up being aspiration of stomach contents which would make things way worse. Stick to basics whenever one can in my book.

 

[Click-N-Treat]

I'm glad to hear everything worked out fine. As Catherine said, back to basics. Sit, down, sit, down, touch collar, sit, touch nose, sit, touch your mouth, down... Add those things to your daily training routine, and make sure that the husbandry aspects of training are just part of the routine. And breathe. You've had a scare. I'm glad it turned out fine in the end.

 

[PeggyTheParti]

Peggy I don't think it is the best strategy to add more volume to the dog's digestive tract when inducing vomiting. I realize you read that as a suggestion but I would not do something like that. The point is to empty their belly and if they ate a lot of something bad and they are agitated by all that is happening it seems like a way that there might end up being aspiration of stomach contents which would make things way worse. Stick to basics whenever one can in my book.

I appreciate your input. Makes sense. And of course it's always best to consult with one's own veterinarian, but I did get that information directly from a veterinary clinic's website. It also noted that feeding a moist meal prior to administering the hydrogen peroxide aids in the process.

The other thing that seemed to help in Peggy's case was heading straight outside for some play. Within a minute or two we had a nice foamy vomit, whereas the straight hydrogen peroxide never produced anything...which of course worried me even more!

Ugh. No fun.

Can't wait to hear that Kiwi's passed the 20th pit!

 

[Dechi]

@PeggyTheParti that is odd. Did you try peroxyde in a seringe first, then when it didn’t work, try the yogurt mix ? Or was it on two different occasions ?

 

[PeggyTheParti]

@PeggyTheParti that is odd. Did you try peroxyde in a seringe first, then when it didn’t work, try the yogurt mix ? Or was it on two different occasions ?

Two different occasions. Actually, three. I think? Eeeesh. Those were some fun times. The first was the only time I did the straight peroxide in a syringe. The rest, I used yogurt.

Because of my own health issues, I go through periods where I vomit a lot. Based on my own experiences with that, I understand why some soft food might help get things going. But I also understand the dangers of aspiration, as that's something I occasionally struggle with, as well.

 

[Kiwimom]

All 22 pits are out! So happy, no need to give Kiwi the can food any more, he pooped 4 times last night and he hated that himself

 

[Spottytoes]

While I haven’t said anything yet, I have been definitely following this whole cherry pit ermergency. I am so happy that every single pit came out!!!! Yay!!!!!

 

[Skylar]

Huge congratulations Kiwi - you averted a most unpleasant surgery.

 

[114977]

Such great news!

 

[Dechi]

Magnificent news ! I have to say I’m pretty impressed you knew exactly how many pits he ate. That proved to be very useful !