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Did any of you ever hear of the speach Senator Vest gave in public forum about what a dog means to a human and what dogs in general represent to us?
I have his speach framed and on my wall in my puppy/whelping room. Every time I pass by and stop to read it, I get teary eyed.

I can post it here if you are interested to read it.
Yes, please!
 
nd the guys into cars talk about cars all the time. the football guys talk about football. The girls who spend their days watching soaps talk about that.

I ride horses- my conversations are horses, dogs, and occasionally kids- anything else and i'm lost *L*
 
I am very honest when I tell people....if I knew how great standard poodles were BEFORE I had kids, I would have never given birth. I could always sell the poodles, not the kids. lol But seriously, kids were way too much work for me. I still have not boarded (I mean babysat) my 7 month old grandson yet....does he come with foodbowls and squeakie toys?
 
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I am very honest when I tell people....if I knew how great standard poodles were BEFORE I had kids, I would have never given birth. I could always sell the poodles, not the kids. lol But seriously, kids were way too much work for me. I still have not boarded (I mean babysat) my 7 month old grandson yet....does he come with foodbowls and squeakie toys?
Here is my philosophy on kids:

If I have to go somewhere for the day (Like work) I can't put my kid in a crate with a waterbottle and some toys, because its abuse.
Shots are cheaper,foods cheaper, my dogs never complain about having the same thing for dinner again, they crap outside, they don't smell as bad, and they don't talk back(mostly)I dont have to wipe their butts, or teach them about the birds and the bees, and not once have they asked "are we there yet" or thrown a tantrum when we leave the park.

therefore I do not have kids, If I did i would probably fall over and die.
I know what its like for non-doggie people to listen to me, its just like when people talk about their kids to me :wacko: no offence intended y'all.

Its taken 6 years for certain family members to understand my doggie lifestyle, my aunt recently said "wow, you really know what youre talking about" and then apologised for cutting conversations short in the past, that was a nice feeling :)

So I guess all in all Im ok with reading the dog food label closer than my own food labels, Im Ok with visiting the pet store more than the grocery store, and Im ok for driving a van because it has stow and go seating and the most space (I can pack 10 dogs in it if I have to, maybe more)
:bird: I know my vet's name, but couldn't tell you my doctors, and I know all my dogs' registered names, birthdays and barks, but I can never remember my dad's or my siblings' birthdays.
LOL
 
I am ROFLMAO , some of the posts here are just down right hillarious, witty, quick and SOOOO true.
I dont have kids, and after having poodles for so many years, I have no urge to have the ones on two legs.. I will take the four legged kids over the 2 legged ones any day. They never answer back.
 
A question:
What does report post mean. I notice it under my name (I am computer illiterate.. I admit it DUH) and there is a rectangular sign clear and with red margins right underneath the name whitepoodles and it says report post when I click on it. Report what ? LOL
 
Ok, this is a great topic! Amber YOU know I get razzed LOL! Adam (my husband for those of you who don't know) SAYS he can't stand dogs....LAMO! To me that is one of the funniest statements of all times, cause he DOTES on Tynkers and Kiara! I would not say anuthing to him about it cause then he would ignore them just to "prove a point" and break their hearts lol

Angie my older sister, just said on my FB I was going to end up an old lady with a million dogs LMAO!

I love to talk about animals in general but mainly dogs. I figure if someone does not want to listen they will tune me out lol, that's what I do to people I don't want to listed to LOL!
 
Just today I was referred to as the crazy poodle lady, whatever, not gonna lie, I love my poodle :D
My dad always jokes that I would starve my kids to feed my dogs. And when he dies, he wants to come back as one of my dogs hehehe
I've been involved in dogs all my life and the poodle just took it to the next level. Didn't even know there was a next level but here I am.
My husband always wants to know, if I had to choose between him and the poodle which one would I choose? I tell him I choose whichever doesn't make me choose. Not gonna lie, I love my poodle ;)
 
My husband always wants to know, if I had to choose between him and the poodle which one would I choose? I tell him I choose whichever doesn't make me choose. Not gonna lie, I love my poodle ;)
My ex-fiance (after deciding he didn't want me in my career and a few other things) told me that I had to get rid of my animals if I wanted to stay with him. I laughed and he said he was serious. So I handed back the ring and made the best decision of my life.
 
Finally managed to find Senator Vest's speach. This is what a dog means to a human. So touchy.


Senator Vest's "Tribute to the Dog"
It is strange how tenaciously popular memory clings to the bits of eloquence men have uttered, long after their deeds and most of their recorded thoughts are forgotten, or but indifferently remembered. However, whenever and as long as the name of the late Senator George Graham Vest of Missouri is mentioned it will always be associated with his love for a dog.

Many years ago, in 1869, Senator Vest represented in a lawsuit, a plaintiff whose dog "Old Drum" had been willfully and wantonly shot by a neighbor. The defendant virtually admitted the shooting, but questioned to the jury the $150 value plaintiff attributed to this mere animal. To give his closing argument, George Vest rose from his chair, scowling, mute, his eyes burning from under the slash of brow tangled as a grape vine. Then he stepped sideways, hooked his thumbs in his vest pockets, his gold watch fob hanging motionless, it was that heavy. He looked, someone remembered afterwards, taller than his actual 5 feet 6 inches, and began in a quiet voice to deliver an extemporaneous oration. It was quite brief, less than 400 words:

"Gentlemen of the jury: the best friend a man has in the world may turn against him and become his worst enemy. His son or daughter that he has reared with loving care may prove ungrateful. Those who are nearest and dearest to us, those whom we trust with our happiness and our good name, may become traitors to their faith. The money that man has, he may lose. It flies away from him, perhaps when he needs it the most. A man's reputation may be sacrificed in a moment of ill-considered action. The people who are prone to fall on their knees to do us honor when success is with us may be the first to throw the stone of malice when failure settles its cloud upon our heads.

The one absolutely unselfish friend that a man can have in this selfish world, the one that never deserts him and the one that never proves ungrateful or treacherous... is his dog.

Gentlemen of the Jury: a man's dog stands by him in prosperity and in poverty, in health and in sickness. He will sleep on the cold ground, where the wintry winds blow and the snow drives fiercely, if only he may be near his master's side. He will kiss the hand that has no food to offer, he will lick the wounds and sores that come in encounters with the roughness of the world. He guards the sleep of his pauper master as if he were a prince. When all other friends desert he remains. When riches take wings and reputation falls to pieces, he is as constant in his love as the sun in its journey through the heavens. If fortune drives the master forth an outcast in the world, friendless and homeless, the faithful dog asks no higher privilege than that of accompanying him to guard against danger, to fight against his enemies, and when the last scene of all comes, and death takes the master in its embrace and his body is laid away in the cold ground, no matter if all other friends pursue their way, there by his graveside will the noble dog be found, his head between his paws, his eyes sad but open in alert watchfulness, faithful and true even to death."

The jury deliberated less than two minutes then erupted in joint pathos and triumph. The record becomes quite sketchy here, but some in attendance say the plaintiff who had been asking $150, was awarded $500 by the jury. Little does that matter. The case was eventually appealed to the Missouri Supreme Court, which refused to hear it.


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A statue of "Old Drum" was erected on the Johnson County Courthouse Square in Warrensbug, Missouri, where the trial occurred. The statue still stands there today.


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Interesting topic! Normal is so relative. I hear it all the time from my non-dog friends, but I fit right in with all of my friends who are dog people like me. The funny thing is, I'm finding that my dog friends are starting to outnumber my non dog friends! The therapy animal organization I'm a member of has really introduced me to so many people who have become such good friends. I find that I've become a little more comfortable with dog people that those who aren't, and spend more time with them. So no, I don't hear it much, because they're all as crazy about their dogs as I am about mine! :)
 
dogs are my life. If people think I'm 'too into them' then they can go jump, cos I love my life, and my life is dogs. I'm the normal one, everyone else is strange. ;)
 
great responses, and thanks so much for the speech about Old Drum.

Just loving being in the company of such smart, interesting folks such as this.

A lot of my friends have dogs so I have the luxury of seeing people who talk about them all the time. Fozzie is so sweet and cute that everyone wants to talk about him which is great. So I guess I'm lucky. And FozziesDad is indulgent with me and since this is his first dog is curious and eager to consume all I can learn and teach him. Having a dog has brought us even closer together.

Last week a group of my girlfriends got together, a few women who hadn't seen each other in a couple years, we had all gotten dogs in the meantime, and by golly we sat in that starbucks and compared notes, dogparks, vets, toys, food the way parents of children do. At one point, one of the girls noted this and we all laughed and said, well it's our turn now! We have all listened to and endured endless stories and pictures about other peoples' kids, now we get to give it back! :D
 
If I am too into my dog than so be it! I am now a confirmed poodleholic.

That story about Old Drum is actually so fascinating. I read an article about it that went into great detail. I think it's juicy enough to be made into a great movie! The plantiff and defendent were neighbors and brothers-in-law. The attorneys were both semi-celebrity politicians who were previously in the military (oh, and one fought with the Union and the other the Confedarate--you can't make this stuff up). It went to trial four times (hung jury, a few appeals, a new trial based on new evidence) and eventually went all the way to the Supreme Court. It was the first legal case where an owner recieved money for a pet. Really neat stuff....
 
Same here, when I got Ted, he was all I could talk about. Then again, my life is pretty boring, lol, so a dog brings some excitement into the mix!
 
Paddleaddict:
This is fascinating I didnt even know about the background of Senator's Vest speach.. Thanks for this info.. very interesting. I do so enjoy this thread.
 
This doesn't have nearly the story behind Senator Vest's speech, but I think it sums it up nicely:

Just a Dog
From time to time, people tell me, "lighten up, it's just a dog," or, "that's a lot of money for just a dog." They don't understand the distance traveled, the time spent, or the costs involved for "just a dog."

Some of my proudest moments have come about with "just a dog." Many hours have passed and my only company was "just a dog," but I did not once feel slighted.

Some of my saddest moments have been brought about by "just a dog," and in those days of darkness, the gentle touch of "just a dog" gave me comfort and reason to overcome the day.

If you, too, think it's "just a dog," then you will probably understand phases like "just a friend," "just a sunrise," or "just a promise." "Just a dog" brings into my life the very essence of friendship, trust, and pure unbridled joy. "Just a dog" brings out the compassion and patience that make me a better person.

Because of "just a dog" I will rise early, take long walks and look longingly to the future. So for me and folks like me, it's not "just a dog" but an embodiment of all the hopes and dreams of the future, the fond memories of the past, and the pure joy of the moment.

"Just a dog" brings out what's good in me and diverts my thoughts away from myself and the worries of the day.

I hope that someday they can understand that it's not "just a dog" but the thing that gives me humanity and keeps me from being "just a human."

So the next time you hear the phrase "just a dog." just smile, because they "just don't understand."

Authored by Richard A. Biby
 
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