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I have in my mind to leave him until 15-20/11 and then cut his baby hair.
I took my boys in for their first grooming session at about 5 months old. We didn't get fired that day :). Remo was pretty cooperative, Neo wasn't.

What we asked for was a general tidy up, not a short trim. The idea that day was to start the shortening of the coat but not go for the full clip down at that time. We were starting into the cool/cold weather seasons so it seemed a good idea to keep some length but not all.

I'll add a couple of photos after I find them.
 
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Sorry, I wasn't recommending air drying, only demonstrating the difference. Air drying is ok when the coat is short, under 1/2inch, but with anything longer, the hair will start to tangle up because wet hair shrinks, tightening any existing tangles. Blow drying is used, not necessarily to remove the curl from the hair but to help get all the hairs untangled.

The curl will return naturally but keeping it combed thru from the skin out to the tips daily or every other day will keep this from becoming an issue
I understood exactly what you mean and thank you very much for the advice you give me. In order to conclude, you suggest that I cut his baby hair on 15-20/11 at the next appointment with the groomer


I keep my boys pretty short in the warm/hot seasons and could let them air dry but don't. Any longer portions like tail, ears, and topknot still need to be blown out dry with all tangles gone.
they are great in photos



Thank you for your kind words on my boys. I'm rather partial to them đź’ť.
They are so beautiful hope Albert will be the same


I understand this preference. Many people do. The concern is that learning to accept new things, like having a sharp, buzzing, vibrating machine on their face and body is easier when they are still quite young. If he should need to have his face shaved for an emergency situation the last thing you want to do is add stress to that already panicky situation.

Once they've learned to tolerate this, let it grow if you want. My boys were fired by their professional groomer because they hadn't been acclimated to the process. This was our fault. My husband thought that they were "too young" so although I tried at home to simulate the process. I learned to groom my boys myself because of this.
I understand exactly what you mean about the stress that the electric clipper creates on a dog when something happens and he has to be shaved, so he'd better get used to it from a young age... I'll seriously think about what I'm going to do


With my girls before, we'd stretch out the time between professional grooming.
The running joke is that you get a new poodle with every groom.

We'd also joke that their noses grew 2 inches from before to after :).

A day or so after a groom
So cute an lovely how many poodles you have?
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
I took my boys in for their first grooming session at about 5 months old. We didn't get fired that day :). Remo was pretty cooperative, Neo wasn't.

What we asked for was a general tidy up, not a short trim. The idea that day was to start the shortening of the coat but not go for the full clip down at that time. We were starting into the cool/cold weather seasons so it seemed a good idea to keep some length but not all.

I'll add a couple of photos after I find them
This is also my thought in about 20 days from now to give him a short haircut so that a lot of baby hair is removed but. because it's winter I'll let him grow back without getting cold... I hope it goes well and he shows up soon from below a curly beautiful hair and it makes me feel more calm that my doll is a real poodle because they make me nervous and a little that it seems to have a little bit bigger ears, I don't know how they look to you...so i wait your pics when you find (an question for something health i saw can o ask here or to open new post) )I found worms in his stool)
 
In order to conclude, you suggest that I cut his baby hair on 15-20/11 at the next appointment with the groomer
Suggesting in the sense of having a grooming experience if he has not yet been seen at the groomers, to acclimate to the sights, sounds, and smells of a grooming establishment. It should be a short, happy, stress-free visit. First grooming visits as a puppy are generally a short, simple session of the groomer brushing and combing out the pup, then what's called a sanitary trim, also known as Face, Feet, and Tail (FFT) here.

The face doesn't have to be shaved close but it should be trimmed and shaped. The area around the eyes should be trimmed so he can see and be seen. The feet also need to be trimmed, shaved if possible and scissor trimmed if not. The tail portion refers to clearing a small area under the tail, for obvious reasons, and also to trim the underbelly area.

These areas all relate to keeping intake and outgo areas for face and tail clean of debris, and feet for what they may pick up outdoors and track in. It's also to help them to keep their footing by having the pads in direct contact with the ground rather than a layer of hair curling over the bottom of their feet.

Neo wouldn't allow the clipper so the groomer trimmed the bottoms of his feet with scissors. (Clippers can actually be safer for these trims due to unexpected puppy movement at the wrong moment.)
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Using Remo as the model again because he's easier to see.
Before his first trim. Adorable always to me but truly a bit scruffy looking.
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Immediately after his first trim at the grooming salon. He's only been trimmed lightly and shaped a bit by trimming along the lines of his body. His face was shaved as well as his feet and the other mentioned areas.
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A couple of years later I went for the vintage moustache look.
Demonstrating how things collect on the facial hair (and the rest of him).
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So cute an lovely how many poodles you have?
I'd love to have a flock of them, but my limit in the real world is two at a time
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Suggesting in the sense of having a grooming experience if he has not yet been seen at the groomers, to acclimate to the sights, sounds, and smells of a grooming establishment. It should be a short, happy, stress-free visit. First grooming visits as a puppy are generally a short, simple session of the groomer brushing and combing out the pup, then what's called a sanitary trim, also known as Face, Feet, and Tail (FFT) here.
About 10 days ago, he had his first visit to a groomer so that he could start getting used to it... everything went well, Pocky was calm throughout the entire grooming and grooming process (the only thing he didn't like was the air from the hair dryer)


The face doesn't have to be shaved close but it should be trimmed and shaped. The area around the eyes should be trimmed so he can see and be seen. The feet also need to be trimmed, shaved if possible and scissor trimmed if not. The tail portion refers to clearing a small area under the tail, for obvious reasons, and also to trim the underbelly area.

These areas all relate to keeping intake and outgo areas for face and tail clean of debris, and feet for what they may pick up outdoors and track in. It's also to help them to keep their footing by having the pads in direct contact with the ground rather than a layer of hair curling over the bottom of their feet.

Neo wouldn't allow the clipper so the groomer trimmed the bottoms of his feet with scissors. (Clippers can actually be safer for these trims due to unexpected puppy movement at the wrong moment.
Most of these were all done at the aforementioned visit... now in twenty days when the hair will have healed I will cut it a little bit before and I hope it will start. let the curly adult hair fall out (on the legs cut normally with the machine without be afraid)


Immediately after his first trim at the grooming salon. He's only been trimmed lightly and shaped a bit by trimming along the lines of his body. His face was shaved as well as his feet and the other mentioned areas.
That's exactly what I did to mine ten days ago

A couple of years later I went for the vintage moustache look.
Demonstrating how things collect on the facial hair (and the rest of him)
I understand what you mean


I'd love to have a flock of them, but my limit in the real world is two at a time
Hope the best for them ❤
 
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Here is the forum for your health question.
(8) Poodle Health | Poodle Forum
I will make a post there


Albert's ears look fine to me. How much is hair beyond the end of the ear skin?
The hair from the end of the skin is about 2.8-3 cm
Also, I just measured him, he is 28.5cm tall and 4.3kg. So in general, how long should I expect him as an adult? Is there any automatic calculation over the internet? (He was born on 12-06-2023)
 
I apologize for my delay in responding. To my knowledge, there aren't any calculators that can give a good prediction of full adult growth. This will depend on the genes he's inherited.

The best I can tell you is what I answered on the first page. His adult height and weight can be guesstimated by using that chart, but it's still no more than an educated guess.

How's everything else going with you and Albert?
 
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I apologize for my delay in responding. To my knowledge, there aren't any calculators that can give a good prediction of full adult growth. This will depend on the genes he's inherited.

The best I can tell you is what I answered on the first page. His adult height and weight can be guesstimated by using that chart, but it's still no more than an educated guess.

How's everything else going with you and Albert?
Sorry for the late reply. Just as you say it is, genes play a big role and no chart can be sure. With Albert đź‘‘ we are doing very well, he is two days 5 months old, 29 cm tall and 5 kg weight. Today we went and clipped his baby hair with a machine and it looked like the hair that appears to be brown has of course also some pockets that are lighter in color... it also looks like it is definitely wavy and maybe curly. We needed to clip him because it is more the same all over his body of. (I am sending you a photo) I was afraid to shave the nose for now. How do you see him?
 

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