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Poodle Snouts and types of standard poodles

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Hi

If you're going to be working with an Australian breeder, here's the Poodle Breed Standard there
Detail (ankc.org.au)

It's likely to be very similar to any major Kennel Club's worldwide, and the standards are usually determined by breed clubs.

National Poodle Council

Ms Susie Kearnes, Secretary
4 Marlow Place
Campbelltown NSW 2560
Phone: 0412 496 460 (b.h.)
Email: nationalpoodlecouncil@gmail.com

Mrs Kay Wright, President
3 Ridgecrop Drive
Castle Hill NSW 2154
Phone: 0422 967 957 (b.h.)
Email: wright_family5@iinet.net.au

You'll want to become familiar with the health testing required or recommended by whichever entity is responsible for determining that. The Kennel Club or the Poodle Council are likely to have breeder member lists or referral sources.

Australian National Kennel Council (ankc.org.au)

Codes of Practice for owners, breeders, judges, and health
Code of Practice (ankc.org.au)
 
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Poodles as puppies generally look very cute with fuzzy faces.
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Poodles when older more often just look neglected
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Poodles when older and groomed look like this
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There are ways to keep the furred face still looking good beyond the cleaning after every meal.
You'll notice in the puppy photos the eyes are still very visible. You can see them, they can see you.
This is really important to bonding and training. It's even part of the breed standard "Head and Expression: (a) Eyes - very dark, oval in shape and set far enough apart and positioned to create an alert intelligent expression". If you can't see the eyes you can't see the expression.

You'll also notice that the puppy growth is even so it looks shaped. Poodles have hair which means it keeps growing so even if left long, it needs to be shaped so it doesn't just look neglected.

I groom my boys frequently now since I'm doing it myself, not well, but it's being done :).

My girls were always done by a professional groomer but we let them grow quite long between grooms, with me doing landscaping on FFT in between. We used to joke that we'd get new dogs every 2-3 months.

The girls just after a groom
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and due for a groom
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Whether the more classic poodle look or furred out, the key is to keep things clean and shaped.
 
Dewclaws are the fifth toe of a dog’s foot positioned on the inside of the legs. Dewclaws function similarly to the human thumb and are fundamental for a poodle when navigating slippery terrain, sprinting, or gripping onto objects.

Dogs have 4 toes on each paw, and a 5th nail that is high on the paw (so high it could be dubbed "on the ankle" or "on the lower limb"). This is just a soft nail when a Poodle is a puppy. However, if not removed, as the Poodle grows older the base of the dewclaw actually grows into an extra digit, flesh, nerves and all.

My boys both still have theirs and I can say that they definitely do function. When Remo grabs onto my leg with both of his legs, his dew claw is strong and fully operational when grabbing on.
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Somewhere in the circled area.
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It is allowed. I'll copy the rules addressing this for you.

Discussion of breeder's public online info, website, FB, etc is allowed, as well as breeders names. Discussions of breeders with public facing sites, or members with personal experience are free to diplomatically assess a breeder on that basis. Discussions are carefully and thoughtfully moderated by our SuperModdesses :).

From The Rules:

5.3 Rules of conduct covered in previous sections apply.

Breeders, be aware that members will likely dissect and provide feedback about what you offer, which should be civil, but may or may not be positive.



Members Rules In Responding To The Poodle Breeder Directory Threads **

Members may create a thread asking about a specific breeder, preferably in the Poodle Breeder Directory subforum which is located under the Poodle Talk forum.** Please use the search bar first to see if information has already been posted. As a member, you may recommend, refer, and discuss breeders.

5.9 In discussing a breeder, your opinions and inferences should be based on a degree of available factual knowledge. What is factual knowledge? It covers a lot of ground:

a) You have experience with the breeder. This is where you have spoken directly and in-depth or worked with the breeder, OR

b) You have directly observed the environment where the puppies and dogs are; OR,

c) Other concrete observations - You have read or observed in photos or videos on their sites or other electronic site(s), which may include pedigrees, health testing, contracts, public court documents or animal welfare complaints, OR

d) You have read information on OFA or a DNA testing site and seen which conditions were tested - and observed which tests have been omitted; OR

e) You have read court documentation or registered complaints on government websites, and review websites such as Yelp or Google, and can provide the links.

f) There is no agreed upon term defining a “backyard breeder”. For example, one person’s hobby breeder who doesn’t place their poodle in Conformation shows but has other assets, still might be another person’s byb. Instead, stating non-judgmental, specific factual observations in their breeding program and environment is far more productive, and shows respect to all readers who can make up their own minds without anyone telling them what and how to think.

Members may make reasonable inferences from the above which leaves a lot of room to do so. HOWEVER, members are not to make wild assumptions and "fill in the blanks". Breeding, when done with excellence, is expensive, so this is to avoid spreading untruths, but also for you not being sued for libel or defamation.

** This is now the Finding The Right Puppy & Breeder forum
 
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Btw can poodles see when they have hair above there eyes? is it possible just to shave above the eyes for them to see, or must the whole face be shaved?
You wouldn't shave above the eyes. You would either keep the area above trimmed so that it doesn't fall over their field of vision, or if very long, band it so the eyes are clear.

If your hair falls over your eyes, can you see? :). When looking thru the many photos here on PF, rather than looking at them for styles you like, look at them with your question in mind.

Which of the poodles eyes can see and be seen easily. I happen to love an extravagant topknot but my poodles have difficulty seeing with their hair in their eyes.

Plus this

Dogs would see a rainbow as dark yellow (sort of brownish), light yellow, gray, light blue and dark blue. Dogs don't see red, purple (violet), or orange as we do. So, while it is established that dogs see shades of yellow, blue and gray, if a dog were to look at a uniform that is red or green it would appear as faded brownish, gray or indistinct. See the color chart below for an approximate idea of what colors dogs see best.
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Color Improves Agility: Dogs do better at agility training when the weave poles, tunnels, jumps and boards are painted in colors they can easily discern.

Nearsighted: Dogs see 20/75, which makes them quite nearsighted.

Best Dog Toy Color: Based on what we know about dogs’ color vision, the best color for dog toys is blue.



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Left: Human view of a dog with a orange, red, and yellow rope in his mouth. Right: The same scene through canine eyes, as interpreted through the Dog Vision Image Processing Tool.


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Left: Human view of a blue and red tennis ball sitting in the green grass. Right: The same tennis ball through canine eyes, as interpreted through the Dog Vision Image Processing Tool. This helps show dogs are better able to distinguish blues than reds.
 
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