Now days, I'm not sure that people talk about Black bloodlines so much. Perhaps it's because, unlike the well known White bloodline, Black carries with it the possibility of so many other colors. Many of the well established black bloodlines routinely produce whites/creams and sometimes even browns and apricots.

Some kennels consistently producing winning Black in the US?

Avatar
Huffish
Grandeur
Bar None
Dawin
Avion
Kaylen

 

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It has also become difficult to talk about specfic color because what most have found is that the gene pool for Poodles (I speak specifically of Standards) has become so small that it is becoming less and less practical from a health stand point to breed only for color is one's lines. To do even moderate outcrosses it becomes difficult to stick to only "black" or "cream/white" etc. However the kennels you listed are great examples of blacks...

 

Claudia...

Looking back east, what Black stud dogs do you like. I'm always on the look-out for a really great dog who is dominant Black or Black/Brown. Feel free to mention your boy. Have you used him yet?

 

Thanks for the info I was not sure if anyone was just breeding totally black bloodlines any more. When I look at pedigrees I see mostly black and white or cream breedings.

 

I think some people are going back to breeding strictly black. In this country we have been popping back and forth between black and white so much that we have lost good black color. All too often, the black dogs you see in the ring are dyed.

One of the reasons the Swedish dogs, like the Avatar kennel, are so popular is that they have all black pedigrees and they are inky black in color.

I'm going to try and work on breeding for black/brown only. Hopefully along the way I can start breeding some good blacks. It will take some work, though.... Gracy is a terrible black.

 

Yeah I have seen them

 

How many breeders are color testing and seeing if they carry the fading gene ?

I only seen a few color testing and was wondering if more breeders do it but just do not post such results on their websites.

 

Sabrina and Gracy were color tested, Izze was not. I know what Delilah carries (brown with no cream) because both of the parents were color tested.

I have recently seen a couple of breeders mention that their dogs do not carry the "fading" gene. I called Vetgen about a month ago to ask them about this test and they never got back to me. As far as I know, there is no accurate test for a fading allele or for the allele that produces grizzling.

Does anyone know differently and if there is a test, who is doing it?