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In another thread it was mentioned that the Toys, Minis and Standards have different temperaments. Exactly how the varieties differ wasn't specified, and I thought the subject deserved its own thread.

If you have experience with more than one size Poodle, how do you think they compare?
 

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it's always individual of course, and there are plenty of exceptions to the 'rule', but GENERALLY minis are much more high drive than standards, which can lead to them being more 'nutty' if they don't have an outlet for their higher drive. In contrast spoos are generally more laid back calmer dogs... Now of course I have an incredibly highly driven nutty spoo, so obviously it's not always true!!! lol!

Toys, in my experience, are a bit more 'yappy & snappy', but I can't say if it's because of them being toy poodles, or them being raised like spoilt lil brats. LOL!!!
 

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I don't have any experience with spoos, but I believe that a lot of the hyperactivity and yippiness of the smaller poodles is down to lack of exercise and discipline. I make sure Teddy has an outlet to burn off excess energy, because if I didn't, he would find ways to do it himself that I might not agree with.

He also does not bark a lot, partially because I've let him know that I don't agree with that either. I don't treat him any differently than I would treat a bigger dog, except that I can pick him up when I need to.

I would say the behavioral problems with most dogs are down to the owners and not the dog itself. :)
 

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Standards:
Rougher with their bodies (many play very hard), more protective (guard dog behavior), birdier, higher prey drive, some can be dead-head couch potatoes lacking drive, noble presence, stable temperament (in well bred dog). I have this variety.

Minis:
More athletic, higher drive, more reactive to sights/sounds, can have more separation issues, sometimes more protective of their own bodies around bigger dogs or children. I plan to someday get this variety.

Toys (I have the least experience with these):
Can be busy without purpose, sometimes very protective of their own bodies around bigger dogs or children, can be highly reactive to sights/sounds, this variety of Poodle suffers most from poor owner handling.... many a great Toy has been ruined by owners who baby and coddle them!!! I've seen some Toys that are amazing, but I'm not sure this variety fits my lifestyle.
 

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Standards:
Rougher with their bodies (many play very hard), more protective (guard dog behavior), birdier, higher prey drive, some can be dead-head couch potatoes lacking drive, noble presence, stable temperament (in well bred dog). I have this variety.
Wow! This is my girl :D
She can be a couch potato, but she doesn't lack drive. Other than that this is spot on.
I've considered a mini in the future so thanks for the info cbrand and FD.
Marian, I think you do a great job with Teddy. I meet many toy poodles in the shop and I know what a difference an owner can make. Keep up the good work!
 

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She can be a couch potato, but she doesn't lack drive.
I've seen some Standards in the obedience ring that are just plain sloggy. I don't know if it is a training issue or a temperament issue, but IMHO, a Poodle of any variety should always be eager and sparkly in in their work.
 

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More athletic, higher drive, more reactive to sights/sounds, can have more separation issues, sometimes more protective of their own bodies around bigger dogs or children. I plan to someday get this variety.
This is a good description of my mini... of course, he's still a puppy, so we will see how his adult temperament rounds out. The only difference is he is concerned around other dogs (no matter the size), people or children. He loves all dogs and people and just wants to run up and PLAY! Of course, this could change when he grows up a bit.

He's not barky at all, but very alert, very active. He has a big toy drive and would fetch all day long if he could. Since he's small, he can run around, even in the house, without causing much of a disturbance. He gets enough exercise with two walks a day and fetch sessions in the backyard.

He has some separation issues. I have always made it a point to make him be by himself at times, even if I'm home (sometimes I'll put him in his pen while I eat dinner or clean the house). He's getting better, but just wants to be by my side at all times. When he's near me (on a leash or at my feet chewing a toy), he's calm.
 

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I would say our mini has some resource guarding issues. He was really good about it, and then again this morning I had to take away his toy because he growled when my kids got too close. Other than that, he's awesome, he doesn't care to have his head petted by anyone but me, but again, we are working on that and it's getting better everyday.
 

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This is a good description of my mini... of course, he's still a puppy, so we will see how his adult temperament rounds out. The only difference is he is concerned around other dogs (no matter the size), people or children. He loves all dogs and people and just wants to run up and PLAY! Of course, this could change when he grows up a bit.

He's not barky at all, but very alert, very active. He has a big toy drive and would fetch all day long if he could. Since he's small, he can run around, even in the house, without causing much of a disturbance. He gets enough exercise with two walks a day and fetch sessions in the backyard.

He has some separation issues. I have always made it a point to make him be by himself at times, even if I'm home (sometimes I'll put him in his pen while I eat dinner or clean the house). He's getting better, but just wants to be by my side at all times. When he's near me (on a leash or at my feet chewing a toy), he's calm.
Ditto - I still think Jager and Monti must be related :rolffleyes:
 

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What an interesting discussion!

Chagall is my first minipoo and I got more than I bargained for. I knew he'd be smart, I just didn't know he'd be Mensa smart. I knew he'd crave attention, I just didn't know how rewarding it would be to train him and spend time with him and have him as my shadow (he is more "Velcro" than Velcro).

He is a terrific athlete but can cool down and chill out readily. He would love to be included in everything I do and frankly I'm game, but restaurants and work feel differently. He's bold about most noises from thunder to school buses to motorcycles and lawn mowers. He only barks when he's altering us to something on his turf, requesting me to toss the frisbee or ball again or further, or shrieking with glee that I've returned home from somewhere.

He is pleasantly stubborn but good-hearted enough to yield to my way, though he's "situationally deaf" and needs me to repeat myself sometimes (funny, it's the same with my husband!). He loves other dogs and people of all ages, from those in diapers to those in adult pull-ups. He's a very easy dog to live with. He needs exercise, limits, attention, good food and belly rubs. I think I owe the breeder a tremendous amount. I suppose nature and nurture count in all living things and she sure gave me the right stuff to work with. There will always be a minipoo in my life for as long as I can hook a leash to a collar and walk.
 

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What an interesting discussion!

Chagall is my first minipoo and I got more than I bargained for. I knew he'd be smart, I just didn't know he'd be Mensa smart. I knew he'd crave attention, I just didn't know how rewarding it would be to train him and spend time with him and have him as my shadow (he is more "Velcro" than Velcro).

He is a terrific athlete but can cool down and chill out readily. He would love to be included in everything I do and frankly I'm game, but restaurants and work feel differently. He's bold about most noises from thunder to school buses to motorcycles and lawn mowers. He only barks when he's altering us to something on his turf, requesting me to toss the frisbee or ball again or further, or shrieking with glee that I've returned home from somewhere.

He is pleasantly stubborn but good-hearted enough to yield to my way, though he's "situationally deaf" and needs me to repeat myself sometimes (funny, it's the same with my husband!). He loves other dogs and people of all ages, from those in diapers to those in adult pull-ups. He's a very easy dog to live with. He needs exercise, limits, attention, good food and belly rubs. I think I owe the breeder a tremendous amount. I suppose nature and nurture count in all living things and she sure gave me the right stuff to work with. There will always be a minipoo in my life for as long as I can hook a leash to a collar and walk.
After reading this, I want to come to your house and play with your poodle. What a great description of what I am certain is a great dog :)
The last line is exactly how I feel about my standard girl!!
 

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Thanks, everyone, for the feedback.

As for the Mini, there is a consensus here that this variety is "athletic". This concerns me somewhat, as I have neuropathy and cannot get around as much as I used to. What exactly does a Mini require in the way of athletic stimulation? My current dog (a muttipoo) wears off her energy fetching her toys endlessly. I can also walk at a normal pace, but jogging or running is out of the question.

The separation anxiety thing shouldn't be much of a problem. I've dealt with that before in other dogs.
 

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I've seen some Standards in the obedience ring that are just plain sloggy. I don't know if it is a training issue or a temperament issue, but IMHO, a Poodle of any variety should always be eager and sparkly in in their work.
Hehe, I LOVE when Saffy is sparkly in her work!
She gets this little flicky prance in her front feet, so cute :D
 

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My mini loves loves loves to fetch and run. He keeps himself pretty busy in that department (well, and chases two preschool aged boys around). But, he does enjoy a nice walking pace. He enjoys running with my husband, but as long as I walk him, he's perfectly happy. The breeder is going to know EXACTLY what puppy/dog they have is right for you/your family/needs. Good luck!
 

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I can't run or jog either, but I have a fenced area that runs the depth of the property. I just stick Teddy in there and say, "Run, Poodle, Run!" and he takes off like a wind up toy. LOL

He will also play fetch with me for a long time, but because he's with me a lot while I'm working, he entertains himself by throwing his toys in the air and chasing after them.
 

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My mini burns off energy with fetch in the backyard. He will also get the zoomies and race around the yard by himself. I can't run either (I have a bad knee), but we go for two 20-minute walks a day, which seems to work well for him. He is a toy fiend, and will play with his toys for hours. He is an athletic dog for sure, but he isn't hyper and because of his small size, it's easy to provide all the exercise he needs.
 

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dear apoodlelady,
I just read Chagall your post and he said, "Come on over! I'll share my marrow bone with you." Talk about an offer you can't refuse, huh?
 

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Alaric,
I think a minipoo can be well occupied with a few walks and games of fetch each day. And of course it's great if there's another pooch around for them to play with. I am no olympic athlete and Chagall is most understanding about when play time needs to end. You don't need to be a world-class athlete to have a minipoo. You just need to provide the dog with enough outlets and opportunities to exercise. Like others have said, minipoos will zoom around inside the house to relieve their pent up energy. They especially do this as pups, then drop to a dead sleep. All good wishes on whatever choice you make in getting another dog.
 
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