I'm wondering what the average yearly total cost will be for a toy poodle which would include the once a year vet visit. Assuming no big health issues arise, what are we looking at a per year average cost?
I no longer associate with that person because I think she is a terrible poodle owner. However, I do miss spending time with her dog! It doesn't seem like I can afford to get a toy poodle of my own. The initial costs are already high for me: harness, leash, crate, dog carry bag, pen fence, bed, dog car seat belt, brushes and a comb, toothpaste, toothbrush, nail clippers, nail file, etc. I would do the grooming myself as I've done it before for other people's small dogs. I would also do the training myself as I've watched so many videos with so many techniques. This is not something I can afford as I have to deal with my own personal expenses ie home rent, car insurance, health insurance payments, my own food and water, etc. As I think about this more, it wouldn't make sense for me on my income level. Thanks for the info!P.S. Are you planning to get a poodle? Or do you already have one? You mentioned in another thread that your questions were regarding a friend’s poodle, so just want to ensure I’m understanding.
Okay, thank you so much for the detailed information. I now understand that having a toy poodle of my own is out of the question. Unless I win the lottery or somehow become an executive at a small company, it simply does not make financial sense for me to do it.This was the approximate cost of caring for my toy poodle monthly last year in the Expensive NE U.S.A., item by item:
$15-20, depending on which food I picked for the month
I like the Farmina dog food a lot, and the big bag Chewy has lasts both my small dogs about seven weeks:
FARMINA N&D Ancestral Grain Chicken & Pomegranate Recipe Adult Mini Dry Dog Food, 15.4-lb bag - Chewy.com
Remember that even if you choose a cheaper dog food, you'll still likely be feeding more of it--plus it's more likely that there will be a health issue caused by said food, which can cost lots of $$ to fix.
Vaccinations (annual thing):
Rabies 3-year vaccination: $33.20
Bordetella intranasal vaccine 1 year: $40.20
I had the option to come back in a separate visit for the lepto vaccine, but decided against it. It would likely have been priced similarly.
You might be able to go to vaccination clinics to get these for cheaper, but likely not by much. I'd shop around and see what's available in your area. You still need to take the dog to the vet for a physical checkup if you do this, however. Toy Poodles are susceptible to a range of health conditions that if caught early, could mean the difference between a few $ spent and many, many $ spent on surgery and the like.
Vet exam (this is also an annual thing):
$66.50 for exam
$76.75 for bloodwork
$46 for a pack of six, so about $8 a month.
Fluffy's quote through Embrace Pet Insurance when I checked last was about $35. This covers emergency vet visits (up to $10,000, I think) but does not cover annual exam type visits or shots. If I wanted to, I could add a system where it reimburses me for said visits, but then my monthly premium would go up significantly.
If this is a new dog, you'll want to at least go to puppy/beginner classes and maybe a little beyond that. A typical class over here is about $115-$145 for seven weeks of training.
I do this myself. However, if I were to use a groomer to maintain a low maintenance cut, I'd probably want to bring Fluffy in about every three weeks or so. That would probably be about 40-60 dollars each time, just off the top of my head from when we did go to the groomer. If you go this route, make sure you seek out an actual groomer and not a pet store chain groomer--those have been known to treat dogs poorly (and a few dogs have died in their care).
If you would consider breeds other than a poodle (just to have a dog around), you might consider being a foster pet parent for a local rescue. They usually cover the vet expenses at the minimum.I no longer associate with that person because I think she is a terrible poodle owner. However, I do miss spending time with her dog! It doesn't seem like I can afford to get a toy poodle of my own. The initial costs are already high for me: harness, leash, crate, dog carry bag, pen fence, bed, dog car seat belt, brushes and a comb, toothpaste, toothbrush, nail clippers, nail file, etc. I would do the grooming myself as I've done it before for other people's small dogs. I would also do the training myself as I've watched so many videos with so many techniques. This is not something I can afford as I have to deal with my own personal expenses ie home rent, car insurance, health insurance payments, my own food and water, etc. As I think about this more, it wouldn't make sense for me on my income level. Thanks for the info!
I would consider a breed other than a poodle as long as it is a small hypoallergenic dog. I live in a small place so my dog can't really be that big. Also, I'm not used to handling the bigger dogs. It doesn't even need to be a pure breed. I contacted this one local rescue about becoming a volunteer and they never replied. They never even replied to the people who were trying to adopt dogs of their own. I hate to say this but some non-profits just don't have their act together!If you would consider breeds other than a poodle (just to have a dog around), you might consider being a foster pet parent for a local rescue. They usually cover the vet expenses at the minimum.
You bring up an interesting philosophical point! I'll continue to think about it!It's possible on $15/hr with no debt. Continue to track every expense, asking yourself how & what can you reduce, and ask if the decisions I'm making today align with my long-term goal and still bring me joy. Let companies compete for your business (like auto insurance). Go through a few seasons of strict delayed gratification. Hit the pause button on consumerism and take stock of what you really need in your life.
Remember, faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see, so keep telling yourself that you hope it will work out.
How can I find out about these soon to be abandoned dogs?Frank, as people are able to get their COVID vaccine shots, more and more won't be staying home with their pandemic dogs. If you are retired and will be home, you will be in a great position to adopt a dog that doesn't want to be left home alone for 8+ hour stretches.
Some of these dogs are going to be small dogs - and they will come with shots/bedding/leashes etc.
I did not think of craigslist to get used items at a much lower price. This is good advice! I don't have an emergency fund. I only have my savings account. Given everything you've told me, I don't think this is realistic possibility. I can easily see my entire savings being depleted if the worst were to happen. Thank you for all the detailed information.You are wise to consider the start up as well as long term costs.
For more expensive durable supplies such as crates and ex-pens, members have suggested places like craigslist or thrift stores might be worth looking at. Many of your other listed items can bought at varying price levels, and don't have to be expensive to be useful. Later you can choose the things to upgrade and when.
The cost of the poodle will be the largest initial cost. If you want a poodle from a quality breeder who does proper health testing of the breeding parents, you are looking at $1500-$3000. Along with rescues, there is the possibility of taking on an older pup, young adult, or retired breeding dog, which may cost less.
Look for poodle specific rescues. The Poodle Club of America not only has breeder referrals for your area but often will have rescue information. That will be listed when available along with the breeder referrals.
These are the regional links but if you search online for "Poodle Club of _" (your state or city) some rescue information may also be listed.
Find poodle contacts in your area. DisclamerPCA does not itself sell Poodle puppies, Toy Poodle puppies, Miniature Poodle puppies, or Standard Poodle puppies. PCA does not offer puppies for sale at any time. PCA instead offers Breeder Referral to link prospective Poodle puppy buyers and... Read morepoodleclubofamerica.orgOn this page...Breeder Referral ContactsPCA National Breeder Members Lists Breeder Referral Contacts Breeder referral West of the Mississippi: Mary OlundPhone: (415) 457-4648Email: [email protected] calls from 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM Pacific time Breeder referral East of the...poodleclubofamerica.org
You may luck out if buying from someone who doesn't, but the saying "pay the breeder or pay the vet" is based on much truth. By selecting a conscientious breeder who does this testing, you greatly increase the odds that your pup will not develop those debilitating conditions and will be of sound temperament fitting to your life.
If you don't have an emergency fund in place, strongly consider having insurance. Either of those can be a literal life saver for your poodle.
We have an active member who has spent thousands on caring for one of her beloved poodles and several members who have had to give their dog up to a shelter, look at going into thousands of dollars in credit debt, or as reported on my local Nextdoor newsletter recently, a neighbor who had to euthanize their dog because they couldn't afford the diagnostic procedures, let alone the treatment after being hit by a car. That choice is tragedy upon tragedy.
Normal living expenses can be budgeted and managed. The unexpected needs to be accounted for too.
This will be true for any breed of dog, even mixed breeds.
Yes to this. The truth is, it’s the people who can’t afford monthly insurance who probably need it the most.While I agree there are cheap ways to get by, I personally would not trash the health insurance because a well-bred dog can still eat something poisonous or fall and break a leg, or be attacked by a loose dog. I specifically recommend health insurance for those who don't have $5k they can easily drop on a vet bill if things get rough. I am one of those people. I can pay $350 a year, but I can't pay a big vet bill. If you are able to have a savings fund with at least $5k in it, then I agree the insurance isn't necessary. But I do think it is important to consider what happens if there is a health emergency.
I'm not aware what I said could be perceived as trashing health insurance for dogs. Many members here do. I was pointing out that:...I personally would not trash the health insurance because a well-bred dog can still eat something poisonous or fall and break a leg, or be attacked by a loose dog...
I'm curious which health insurance provider you use for only $350/year. I can't recall the name of the one I used for three years, but when they jacked up their cost to $129 per month for my two poodles, I was done.Otherwise most people do better keeping a cookie jar account. Chances are your toy poodle will be a house dog with minimal risk of accidents