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nikijack

Discussion Starter · Jan 10, 2021

Does any one have any bright ideas about bringing a puppy from U.S. to Canada during the pandemic? I have tried every idea, and my breeder will not respond.
thank you, Jack

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What have you tried so far? How far will the puppy need to travel and in what state/province will he or she be crossing?

You previously mentioned the communication issues with your breeder were resolved, so I’m surprised to hear this is ongoing. I’m not sure I’d feel comfortable purchasing a puppy from someone who wasn’t available to provide reasonable support.

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Rose n Poos

· #3 · Jan 11, 2021

Shooting in the dark here but on the off chance you haven't tried either, two things come to mind.

Contact an official Poodle Club or the CKC, either in your area or where your pup would be coming from (AKC/UKC there of course)and ask if they have any ideas how to get this done.

The other is basically the same except to contact other breeders, either in your area or in the area that your pup is, to see if they have any suggestions.

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vandog

· #4 · Jan 11, 2021

What have you already tried? Where is the puppy coming from/where does it have to get to? I’m not sure that I would be comfortable purchasing a puppy with the lack of communication or support.

You might be able to fly the dog in on cargo and pick it up from the airport? I think now there are a lot more flights going in/out that it should be a possibility to arrange for it to go in cargo? And then pick the puppy up from the airport.

I know when I got my last dog (pre-COVID), I got her from a breeder in the states. They were aware of how to bring the puppy from the states and what paperwork was needed and I drove down to pick her up. We had to go inside the customs building to verify paper work and look through the car. The officer said they just wanted us to go inside so they could pet my puppy. We got a border services officer who had poodles growing up so only was asked for health certificate and paperwork and didn’t have to pay.
I did research and talked to some people who brought dogs/puppies across the border (either flying or driving). Some have had to pay taxes and others didn’t - it’s up to the discretion of each officer. They can also look online to see if the amount you paid was reasonable and need to see communication and proof of the amount you paid.

Another suggestion that may be harder to facilitate but might be an option? I had a friend whose sister had been on a waiting list for a puppy for almost 2 years. She was finally set to receive a puppy that was ready to come home end of March. The border was closed and there was no flights in/out at the time and then there was the restrictions and requirement to self-isolate. She got in contact with a trucking company in her city who connected her with a truck driver who was willing to bring the puppy across the border. It took a lot of coordination and preparation but it worked out.

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Jenna2020

· #5 · Jan 11, 2021

Westjet used to fly dogs in Cargo before the pandemic, but not sure what the situation is now. There are also apparently some companies that can assist with this, but it will cost you a fortune and apologies but I don't have any names, but I am sure a search would show some.

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nikijack

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jan 11, 2021

PeggyTheParti said:
What have you tried so far? How far will the puppy need to travel and in what state/province will he or she be crossing?

You previously mentioned the communication issues with your breeder were resolved, so I’m surprised to hear this is ongoing. I’m not sure I’d feel comfortable purchasing a puppy from someone who wasn’t available to provide reasonable support.

Peggy: I've tried various pet relocation services, airlines. I know that I can't drive across the border. I'm hoping that my breeder will have an idea, but she's hard to communicate with. I'll give her a 'phone call soon.

vandog said:
What have you already tried? Where is the puppy coming from/where does it have to get to? I’m not sure that I would be comfortable purchasing a puppy with the lack of communication or support.

You might be able to fly the dog in on cargo and pick it up from the airport? I think now there are a lot more flights going in/out that it should be a possibility to arrange for it to go in cargo? And then pick the puppy up from the airport.

I know when I got my last dog (pre-COVID), I got her from a breeder in the states. They were aware of how to bring the puppy from the states and what paperwork was needed and I drove down to pick her up. We had to go inside the customs building to verify paper work and look through the car. The officer said they just wanted us to go inside so they could pet my puppy. We got a border services officer who had poodles growing up so only was asked for health certificate and paperwork and didn’t have to pay.
I did research and talked to some people who brought dogs/puppies across the border (either flying or driving). Some have had to pay taxes and others didn’t - it’s up to the discretion of each officer. They can also look online to see if the amount you paid was reasonable and need to see communication and proof of the amount you paid.

Another suggestion that may be harder to facilitate but might be an option? I had a friend whose sister had been on a waiting list for a puppy for almost 2 years. She was finally set to receive a puppy that was ready to come home end of March. The border was closed and there was no flights in/out at the time and then there was the restrictions and requirement to self-isolate. She got in contact with a trucking company in her city who connected her with a truck driver who was willing to bring the puppy across the border. It took a lot of coordination and preparation but it worked out.

Vandog: I like the idea of the trucking company. Someone just quoted me 1850 USD plus. I understand they have to make a profit, but I can't afford that. Friends of mine had good luck with airline cargo, very inexpensive. That might be the way to go.

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PeggyTheParti

· #7 · Jan 11, 2021

A puppy in cargo? Eek. That makes me really nervous.

How about just flying to pick up your puppy? Canadians can still fly into the United States. You would just need to quarantine upon your return, but that’s pretty much life with a brand new puppy anyway.

When will your puppy be ready to come home?

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nikijack

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jan 11, 2021

It's a Catch 22. Air Canada says the puppy has to be at least 12 weeks old, A 12 week old puppy is too large to go under the seat. February 14, she'll be ready. I think American Airlines has a ten week minimum. This why I must talk with the breeder.

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vandog

· #9 · Jan 11, 2021

nikijack said:
Vandog: I like the idea of the trucking company. Someone just quoted me 1850 USD plus. I understand they have to make a profit, but I can't afford that. Friends of mine had good luck with airline cargo, very inexpensive. That might be the way to go.

My friend’s sister talked with the driver prior to any arrangements. He was an older gentleman whose dog passed away last year after spending years travelling the country with him. She felt comfortable knowing that he has had experience with dogs especially in the truck. She paid the driver $500 cash for helping plus made sure he had enough to pay the taxes when crossing the border. The breeder met the driver about 4 hours from the border with puppy/crate and other supplies and then he drove straight through and met him outside the border in a parking lot. Might be worth calling around a few trucking companies local around you/breeder to see if it’s feasible.

I don’t know if I personally would be comfortable flying with COVID at the moment. Plus there is the mandatory 2 week quarantine which would impact the ability to take the puppy to the vet for a check up which is why I suggested cargo.
A close friend had their pup shipped with WestJet at 10 weeks and everything went okay. I know we were concerned if my spoo would fit under the seat when we picked her up which is why we decided to drive. We were not comfortable with shipping her in cargo either but I don’t know if there’s many options with COVID and Canada’s mandatory quarantine.

WestJet allows puppies 8 weeks and older in the cabin which I think is one of the few? I think you need to have a talk with your breeder about your options. Tough spot to be in for sure trying to arrange how to pick up your puppy!

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