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My head is spinning with the pros and cons of neutering. And if I neuter do I go to the vet (really expensive) or to a low cost clinic/ humane society? My pups almost a year old and he's a big toy. Interested in hearing what you did or will do, regardless of the size of your poodle.
 

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I have done what I have done for years, and purchased a low cost neuter/spay certificate from Friends of Animals a neuter for $64, a spay is $72. I did pay for pre-surgical blood work roughly $100. My vet does take these certificates. I don't know if this program or a similar is available to you.
 

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I found this article informative: https://www.parsemus.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/kustritz_optimal_age_gonadectomy.pdf

It weighs the pros and cons of spaying/neutering, and the difference it makes depending on age. It is still a big decision to make. But maybe it could help you decide.

Edit: As for the vet vs low cost clinic... It depends. I have heard that low cost clinics have such a high volume of patients that they're very good at the procedures they offer, at least where I am. Vet's don't do nearly the amount of surgeries that clinics do, but if you feel that your vet is incredible and maybe specializes as a surgeon, it may be worth the cost to go to them for more peace of mind or a more personal experience.
 

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Definitely in favor of spaying/neutering around 1 year of age. Have never had an intact dog long-term and most likely never will.

I would absolutely recommend a low-cost clinic. Only reason I couldn't with the spoos is that they had prophylactic gastropexies done while they were spayed/neutered. I've had many adopted and foster dogs have their surgery at low cost clinics, though, and not one problem. Most important thing is to insist on good pain control medications.
 

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Great article, Spoochi. I also wanted to add that for some reason I was terrified to have Frosty neutered, despite the fact that I've been through this so many times. My friends convinced me he would be absolutely fine, and sure enough, he was.
 

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I neuter at about 18 months and spay at 13 months.

I think a low-cost clinic is better than not sterilizing your animal. But personnally I feel more at ease doing it at my own vet.
 

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I don't know if this is true, but I've heard spay and neuter clinics have less 'monitoring' during their procedures, so when everything is going fine (which is most of the time) that's fine, but if things go wrong there are less people to monitor/help. Again, this is only what I have heard, so take it with a grain of salt.
 

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We chose to neuter our two mini boys, not long after their 1st birthday. We chose to go with the vet since they also had a tech to monitor thru the procedure and after. We did the pre-op bloodwork but didn't have the IV cath placed for emergency administration of meds. We hoped that having the additional tech to monitor would reduce any need to do ER drugs, but if there should be a next time for anesthesia, I'll do that too. The vet also used a quick-reversing type of anesthetic.

I haven't looked again for the studies, but the suggestion is that higher risk for animal anesthesia is associated with the lack of monitoring.

Any clinic, low cost or not, that will offer the options to reduce risk is a clinic I would consider.
 
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I also did the low cost spay...........our SDHS has a list of clinics that participate in the programs and there is a mobile 'Neuter Scooter' bus that goes into neighborhoods around the city. I was really happy with Molly's ......they even pulled her loose baby teeth out for free! LOL! (I was worried at first because she only weighed 5lbs so I made sure they were using halothane ) I had no worries about monitoring as there were several vet aides to do that post surgery, and a CVT in the surgery to monitor the anesthesia.
 
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...they even pulled her loose baby teeth out for free!
That is my concern... if he has retained baby teeth that they won't be pulled. My vet said the only way to really assess the back areas is when he's under anesthesia. He doesn't have any visible retained front ones. On the low cost clinic websites there is no mention of dental work. I'd be willing to pay for it, if it is needed.
 

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Well if it helps I just had Renn neutered. It was done by my vet, who did pre bloodwork, microchipped and I had him shorten his nails a bit more (minor). Plus 3 days of pain medication. The entire cost was just under $250. My vet also called the following day to check how he was and to go over once again anything that might concern me. I have had this done many many times on dogs during my lifetime but I have also been a basket case over Renn. His skin around his incision and scout was very very red but not swollen for day 1 and 2 and that made me so nervous. But yesterday the inflammation went away and today (day 4) it looks very good. I can now keep his crown (cone) off while he is tethered to me and only put it on at night when I crate him. Two weeks before his neuter he decided he does not really like his crate anymore and with a cone on he hates it. Although it is a 48 inch crate I think he is no longer comfortable sleeping in it as he likes to stretch out, then sleep in all kinds of positions. I am toying with the idea of allowing him to sleep with me once he is healed but then again I worry that he will get into some wires or something while I'm asleep. Well another week before that decision is made. And I like my vet and trust him so that was an easy decision.
 

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Our boys are intact and will remain so unless there is a medical reason to neuter. Lily is spayed and her surgery was at our regular vet. I think this is a cost that has to be built into one's planning for getting a puppy. Even at a regular vet's office it was a small cost compared to some of the things you can end up having to take care of.
 
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Well if it helps I just had Renn neutered. It was done by my vet, who did pre bloodwork, microchipped and I had him shorten his nails a bit more (minor). Plus 3 days of pain medication. The entire cost was just under $250. My vet also called the following day to check how he was and to go over once again anything that might concern me. I have had this done many many times on dogs during my lifetime but I have also been a basket case over Renn. His skin around his incision and scout was very very red but not swollen for day 1 and 2 and that made me so nervous. But yesterday the inflammation went away and today (day 4) it looks very good. I can now keep his crown (cone) off while he is tethered to me and only put it on at night when I crate him. Two weeks before his neuter he decided he does not really like his crate anymore and with a cone on he hates it. Although it is a 48 inch crate I think he is no longer comfortable sleeping in it as he likes to stretch out, then sleep in all kinds of positions. I am toying with the idea of allowing him to sleep with me once he is healed but then again I worry that he will get into some wires or something while I'm asleep. Well another week before that decision is made. And I like my vet and trust him so that was an easy decision.
very easy to keep them from getting into something when sleeping with you. <ine are toys so I lift them in and out of bed. The one that did jump I trained them up down and stay so they never got out of bed. If they have to potty they will either scratch me of whine, Never had one get out of bed before me or do anything in the bed
 

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She was spayed early (around 8 months). Since Peeves is about the same age as she is and he was going to remain intact I opted to spay before her first heat so that their relationship wouldn't be altered by her seeing her as attractive for mating. Had that not been a consideration I would have waited until at least after her first heat cycle.
 
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Thanks! I'm still trying to figure out whether I'd like to spay our future pup before or after her first heat. Though Cherie did mention she usually suggests before, I am still considering after. She also said that she welcomes her puppy buyers to make their own decisions, which I am so thankful for. I have lots of time to do more research though.
 

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Retained teeth are hard not to notice, this is Lenny's shark mouth
Thank you sooooo much for posting that pic! Never seen a pic of retained "shark" teeth. Plus was baffled on how to get Rocky to open his mouth wide - appreciate your hand position.

He did have a retained deciduous puppy tooth (which at the time, I didn't know it was a puppy tooth) but it has since fell out. Will check the back teeth.
 

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Twyla, my goodness! I have never seen such a thing. Are these old pics or does he still have them? So white and shiny...

I should say I did have a child with a few retained teeth, but Lenny has her beat.
Leonard had them removed when he was neutered at 8 1/2 months, generally the smaller the toy the more likely they retain teeth. However it was the most retained teeth my vet ever saw.
 
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