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So I was walking my dog the other day, and a guy on the side of the road asked if I knew anything about two strays wandering the street. One was a black and white pitbull, the other a caramello guy dog/pointer type dog. His own dog was behind a fence.

These two dogs had been out before on my road. They were registered and we tracked down the owner, who advised that they were safe dogs, and he was doing what he could to keep them within his property.

As I was starting to tell this to the guy, the pitbull first lunged at Duncan, and then at me. Duncan has a bite scar on his hip. The nipped at me, but I have no injury. It seemed to take forever, I've never been so panicy in my life.

Thank God that guy was there. Once he made the decision to get inbetween me, my dog and the pitbull, he did so assertively and I believe he saved us from any further harm. I got as far away as possible as quickly as possible, he called the pound.

I have never been afraid of dogs in my life, now I can't go near a labradoor, jump at a chi, & was incredibly nervy around Dad's boxer. This so isn't me. Today Duncan is having a play date at my house with a huntaway cross, and they seem to be really enjoying it. My hearts still racing, and the dogs are here all day. Maybe I'll relax soon.

We're contenplating getting a second mini. There is a 3yr old fixed well socialised male in our area who is up for sale at the moment. Dogs are pack animals - would a stray be less likely to attack if I have two in my hands? Would it be fairer on my dog, who gets walked nearly daily for an hour anyway, when another child came along? What issues does a second dog help, what does it hinder? Or am I being selfish? We have a fully fenced yard, an even bigger fully fenced area to run in right next door, and can afford the food and rego costs etc. We probably can't afford to insure another animal though.

Any thoughts, ideas and opinions appreciated, while I try and 'nut out' my current dog situation.
 

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That is why I do not trust Pitts - I leave the premises as soon as possible even if the dog is on the leash :wacko: !!! One never knows which one is wacko-dog and which one is not :scared:. I truly believe that anybody owning a Pitt shoud have a "permission" to have it - like some king of "license to own a deadly weapon" .... You are lucky that both you and your dog are well and alive.

Regarding getting another pooch : )) - since you absolutely can afford it if your heart longs for another one - why not ? : ))) Just - make a decision for yourself and not your existing puppy : ))) ! Many dogs enjoy being the "only" child LOL, some actually hate any addition LOL, so it is really up to you and your wishes : ))).

Good luck with whatever you decide : ))))

PS: No, having 2 dogs will not stop crazy Pitt attack - not even if you had 5 dogs ...
 

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PS: No, having 2 dogs will not stop crazy Pitt attack - not even if you had 5 dogs ...
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This I agree with if anything it may entice an aggressive dog more. I think this man needs to better than try now that he is aware of what his dog CAN and DID do.

I am a little cautious of Pitts - ONLY when I see an owner not have control of the dog or if it's off leash. My daughter and I were tormented on a walk once when she was small child. The dog never attacked us or our dog but it growled terrible and the owner run as the dog got closer and once he got his hands on his dog he had to drag him by the skin of his back while his nails ripped at the concrete, It was scarey and I am sorry for you and your dog and glad your both OK. BUT while saying that I have met some real SWEET, well trained Pitts and I have a whole different attitude today BUT it's very normal for people to have fear when faced with this tyoe of situation.

If I were to get another dog, I might get a Standard something bigger more protective. Not that it will make a huge difference but I can see the difference when I walk my Poms and my Poodles.....
 

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Poor little Duncan! I hope he's okay. I understand why it freaked you out, would have done the same to me. All the best!
 

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I have a boxer/pit mix that we rescued from my step brother (who beat her pretty badly as a pup) She's pretty much our first dog so we didn't know much about socalizing when she was young. She's a little dog aggressive.. but I think that's my fault, I get nervous when other dogs come around and I think she senses that and feels like she has to protect me =/ I'm not sure what she would do in someone elses hands.

On or off the leash in public, she's great with other people.. I've been working with her a lot but I'm not an expert on the manner. I'm really afraid for her after I move out because my parents are absolute complete morons when it comes to dogs and they let her bark like crazy at the pizza guy. When I grab her and tell them they can't let her do that they try to tell me she's 'Protecting the castle.' :doh:

I agree that stupid people shouldn't own bully breeds, at least not without being educated on the breeds or going through socalizing and obediance classes.
 

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OMG I am so sorry that this happened to you ! When I was a small child I had a Minature named Coco and he saved me from an attack by a Shepherd.The Shepherd disemboweled him. But the dog was coming for me ! I was never so afraid in my whole life Coco saved me and the great Vets in Phoenix saved my Coco ... This dog had attacked others before it was not a fluke....People that own these types of breeds should have to obtain a special licence to own them IMHO. They can be dangerous and there should be criteria to own them . Is it still illegal to breed these pitbull dogs in Europe?
 

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I also own a boxer (much misunderstood, BTW) and I totally don't trust Pits. While boxers are the clowns of the bully breeds and are very rambunctious (thus the misunderstanding oftentimes), they are very rarely mean just total spazzes! Boxers can hurt small children, simply through their overexhuberance and size (jumping on them and accidentally knocking them down - they actually LOVE their little people!!). However....Pits are a crapshoot IMHO. They can be perfectly calm and seem like the perfect family dog one minute, then rip a person's face off another. I'm not sure what sets them off. I guess their historical background as fighters is hard for some of them to overcome. Unless a Pit is under leash contol from its human, I steer clear. Sorry if this offends any Pit lovers out there.
 

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People-aggressive behavior in pitbulls is no different from the same behavior in any other breed of dog. It's mostly caused by fear--if you treat a dog badly, he's going to develop a strong mistrust and fear of humans. It is not the dog's or the breed's fault. It's the human's fault.

It's the dog-aggression that people try to breed into them. Pitbulls are used the way they are because they are not naturally people-aggressive, so the scumbags who fight them can handle them. It sickens me that these dogs with naturally sweet dispositions are turned into vicious monsters for the sake of money and greed.
 

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I guess their historical background as fighters is hard for some of them to overcome.
Actually, in their historical fighting background, they HAD to be people friendly. They had to let people break up the fights and care for them inbetween, so they are actually Very people friendly! We have just ruined them lately and made them people aggressive.

I love pitbulls! I think they are so cute with their piggy faces, and so misunderstood. I would probably go so far to say that i would trust more pitbulls that ive met then labs. I would love to own a pitbull, but i probably never will. Because i understand the breed, and i plan on always being a multi-dog household. I would Never leave any pitbull alone with any dogs, and would not leave Any dog alone with children (pit or not).

Im sorry you had that bad experience on your walk! Hopefully you will be feeling better soon!
 

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I totally agree with Marian. Its the humans that own the pits that I really do not trust. Its to bad that so many of these ignorant humans seem to think that owning a pit makes them (the human tuff). So many of these pit owners should not in any way own any type of bully dog, since so many of them cannot handle them. I think that a lot of these people thought it was cute when their pits were puppies and taught them to be mean, then when these pups grew up, these people found out that they could not handle them. We were just coming home from walking our 2 standards and 2 toy poodles one day, (ours were all on leashes), and we were just entering our own front yard, when a lady yelled at us to get in our house. We looked up to see this lady chasing her pit as it came to us growling like crazy. This was very scary, if a person cannot control their dog then they definately shouldn't have one, especially off a leash like this one was. I am sorry to have to say that I too am afraid of close contact with pitts, which that alone can make the pitt leary of me, because animals since fear as danger. I do know some very responsible pet owners who have pits and other various bully breeds whos dogs are marvelous, and I don't feel would hurt anybody or anything. Look at Ceaser Malans pit, "Daddy", which he uses in trainning and calming of other dogs. I absolutely love Daddy
 

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That is scary but its not the dogs fault if it wasnt brought up right its all on the owner!
I am very protective of all three of my dogs especially when im on a walk. Its your job to keep a look out and defend your dog from danger.
I once has to lift osita up by her collar straight in the air because some crazy dog about her size (20 lbs) was coming straight for her and wanted to kill her. I got her into my arms and proceeded to block the little monster from jumping up on me trying to get at my dog. I finally had to kick the thing and it went home down the street.
You are your dogs protector and i will protect my dogs even my 48 pound Standard to the end. If a dog is even playing too rough (which im convinced some people just cant read their own dogs body language at dog parks) i will call Mister and leave the park promptly.
I was at a very nice little off leash area at a local feed store i go to and had a bull terrier literally latch on to Misters neck out of no where! I grabbed the dogs scruff and Misters scruff (who i might add was just standing there looking at me like "help mommy") and proceeded to pull the bull terrier off of his neck. Thank god there were no cuts exept one on Misters hip that healed quick. I also had another time where a BC was getting more and more aggressive with Mister. Seeking him out and biting his neck and terrorizing him. I called Mister and looked at the dogs owner (who didnt interfere at all when her dog was being naughty) and i left.
 

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Cesar Millans dog Daddy was NOT a fighter. He got him from Red Man (i believe) a rapper who didnt think he had enough time for daddy with being on the road and touring and whatnot so he gave Daddy to Cesar as a puppy.
 

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Oh and i forgot to mention that Pitbulls are not really at the top of my list of dogs that scare me. And im not easily scared by dogs at all. Working with them your whole life and at grooming salons you learn real quick how to work with them.
From my experience one of the scariest dogs and one that i wouldnt trust as far as i could throw would be a belgian Malinois. No offense to anyone that has one but they just scare me.
 

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Mister it sounds like you think that us being attacked was essentially my fault? I had my dog, by my side, on a lead. That dog was roaming, and appeared from nowhere. I was not in any way in the wrong.

Yes I am a dog owner and i need to protect my dog, but I am also a young mum and wife with a family that depend on me and I had to at the same time look out for myself, I don't think that puts me in the wrong. I would not touch the pitbull, I am 99% sure that if I had done in this situation I would have been bitten, hard. I did what I could in a freak moment.

I didn't post this as a debate on the pros and cons of pitbulls, nor to be knocked about how i handled a siutation nobody should ever have too. As for pitballs, I hate the bloody things, but I was attacked by one less than a week ago, of course I'll say that. I wanted advice on how to move on, and whether or not I should consider a second dog.
 

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Actually, in their historical fighting background, they HAD to be people friendly. They had to let people break up the fights and care for them inbetween, so they are actually Very people friendly! We have just ruined them lately and made them people aggressive.

I love pitbulls! I think they are so cute with their piggy faces, and so misunderstood. I would probably go so far to say that i would trust more pitbulls that ive met then labs. I would love to own a pitbull, but i probably never will. Because i understand the breed, and i plan on always being a multi-dog household. I would Never leave any pitbull alone with any dogs, and would not leave Any dog alone with children (pit or not).

Im sorry you had that bad experience on your walk! Hopefully you will be feeling better soon!
I agree ! I know im sorry but I get annoyed when people spell it pitbull lol, I say pit bull for short but this can mean many anything really. I like saying apbt. I bet the dog was not even a purebred Apbt anyways its rare for people to have pure ones by pedigree.

As for people making these dogs dog aggressive its not true. Again I will say this breed CAN be dog aggressive. No one has to TEACH them to fight. This type of thinking is the REASON why a lot of apbt are in the shelters.
I have heard all kinds of stories about show apbt getting out of their kennels and the breeder came home to a bloody mess.

Amstaffs are seen as apbt but IMO the amstaff breeders have been working hard to breed DA out of them. I think that they are getting it down.

There are many other breeds that can have dog aggression. Akita's are one of them, Bullmastiffs , Rottweilers, Bull terrier etc.. the list goes on.

apbt are my favorite breed and I have been around them my whole life I have yet to get bit by one or have one fight one of my own dogs. The ones who bite people are clearly raised wrong or not socialized.

Cesar Millan is a pit bulls angel he knows dog behavior very well that he can have a pack of pit bulls and nothing happens.

My bf has one named Jasmine we adopted her last year from the shelter ( I don't recommend it not unless a puppy or a trainer comes with you to choose) She lives with his pit and boxer mixed Frisco. They have no problems with each other and I don't think any problems will happen since my bf and I are experienced. The crazy thing is Frisco's mom was a fighting dog and his dad was a euro boxer ( they have more drive than american boxers) Frisco will not fight a dog flat out. The dog would have to be dominate and picked the fight. My bf knows this and has 100% control over frisco. Hence why him and Jasmine play 24/7 in his yard lol.

I had alot of experience with a DA bull terrier she was also HA. When she was in my care no fights no biting of people. When she returned to her owner biting people and trying to fight other dogs....... A lot of owners just don't understand dog behavior enough to correct their dogs.

My friend Micheal has a show apbt ( half amstaff and pure apbt ) He is a GR CH in UKC he just got Mason his pure amstaff. They do not fight since Michael has over 30 years with the breed. He had to give up his dog Jack ( which was 100% real apbt) Jack was dominate and he would snap at Mason. So Michael did what was best and returned Jack to the breeder. Mike should be getting a new amstaff puppy soon and he will have three so called DA breed living with him I highly doubt he will have a problem.


Sorry That this has happened to you ! I know it can be scary but the worst thing you can do its to always be scared and panic. This will cause issues with your own dog because dogs feed off of our energy. I suggest bringing Pepper spray when you go on walks ! this has worked wonders for my old neighbor and her siberian huskys. Her dogs would get attacked on her walks because we had a bunch of dumb people letting their dogs free! She started to bring pepper spray and no more attacks.

Even though I love this breed so much I do not trust loose apbt that I do not know. You never know how the dogs temperament is or if its DA or not. I live in a city where apbt is the number one dog of choice.

I think you should have no problem with a second dog at all :D
 

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Mister it sounds like you think that us being attacked was essentially my fault? I had my dog, by my side, on a lead. That dog was roaming, and appeared from nowhere. I was not in any way in the wrong.

Yes I am a dog owner and i need to protect my dog, but I am also a young mum and wife with a family that depend on me and I had to at the same time look out for myself, I don't think that puts me in the wrong. I would not touch the pitbull, I am 99% sure that if I had done in this situation I would have been bitten, hard. I did what I could in a freak moment.

I didn't post this as a debate on the pros and cons of pitbulls, nor to be knocked about how i handled a siutation nobody should ever have too. As for pitballs, I hate the bloody things, but I was attacked by one less than a week ago, of course I'll say that. I wanted advice on how to move on, and whether or not I should consider a second dog.

Im SOOOO sorry i didnt mean for it to come across like that. I know it was na stray and you were totally in the right and im sure my views on any dog would be tainted if i was attacked by one as you were. Im just trying to stick up for the breed a little bit because i know what good dogs they can be when in the right hands. Sorry again if it came across as blaming you, i totally didnt mean for it to be that way.

I would say to move on just go for small safe walks and then they could work up to longer walks once you and your dog are comfortable again. Im sure it scared him a bit too! As for another dog, go for it if thats what you want. Would it be for protection like a larger breed or another toy or mini? Either way its up to you.

Sorry this had to happen to you!
 

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Mister it sounds like you think that us being attacked was essentially my fault? I had my dog, by my side, on a lead. That dog was roaming, and appeared from nowhere. I was not in any way in the wrong.

Yes I am a dog owner and i need to protect my dog, but I am also a young mum and wife with a family that depend on me and I had to at the same time look out for myself, I don't think that puts me in the wrong. I would not touch the pitbull, I am 99% sure that if I had done in this situation I would have been bitten, hard. I did what I could in a freak moment.

I didn't post this as a debate on the pros and cons of pitbulls, nor to be knocked about how i handled a siutation nobody should ever have too. As for pitballs, I hate the bloody things, but I was attacked by one less than a week ago, of course I'll say that. I wanted advice on how to move on, and whether or not I should consider a second dog.
I don't think you where in the wrong at all. Its stupid people like that guy who make things go wrong with the breed. Seriously if it was me and I had no experience with the breed I would be Horrified !

I had my Gsd attacked by my friends Bull terrier more than once. The first time it happened I was Shocked !

It takes a while to gain calmness no matter what is going on. ( ceasar is like the master of it) I still get my adrenaline rushing when something happens like this. I think this link will help

http://www.wikihow.com/Handle-a-Dog-Attack

http://www.wikihow.com/Break-Up-a-Dog-Fight

Cesar has shown two dogs fighting and he had them both by the scruff and he held them there until they let go. ( this is if you dog has a hold of the other dog and wont let go)
 
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