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What is the going rate for Standard poodle stud fee ?

I notice with this breed its never posted on any breeders websites. How much is average for a CH ?
 

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Depends on the region and the reputation of the stud. Everything is negotiable. I think on either coasts you will pay at least $2000. The going rate on some of the better known studs is $2500-$5000.

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These would be fees for finished and test show dogs who are proven producers.
 

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Roxy - you can also negotiate other deals - like "puppy back" - which means you do not pay for a stud but will give a puppy of a choice back to a Stud owner or the 2 of them - OR pay a fee +puppy back and so forth.

All depends of a quality of a Stud - I heard of 5000 $ fees too !!!!

Do not forget that nowadays one can use a frozen sperm for a smaller fee.

Also, sometimes a bitch is sent to a stud home for a breeding and that can be very expensive since you pay not only for a fee, but transportation and boarding !!!!
 

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Roxy - you can also negotiate other deals - like "puppy back" - which means you do not pay for a stud but will give a puppy of a choice back to a Stud owner or the 2 of them - OR pay a fee +puppy back and so forth.

All depends of a quality of a Stud - I heard of 5000 $ fees too !!!!

Do not forget that nowadays one can use a frozen sperm for a smaller fee.

Also, sometimes a bitch is sent to a stud home for a breeding and that can be very expensive since you pay not only for a fee, but transportation and boarding !!!!


Frozen semen is a good idea, but, my fertility vet insists it be surgically implanted. And to do this the bitch must be timed to check her ovulation to get the timing perfect and ensure fertilization. The breeder you get the semen from will charge their usual stud fee for the semen, then the vet fees for timing and surgery nearly double the cost. In my area anyway.
 

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sorry...chilled semen can be AId -but frozen implanted. Chilled is only good if the stud dog is nearby. If shipping from afar, it would have to be frozen and packed on dry ice to be sent, then surgery for the female.
 

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I do know about frozen semen but have no clue about where these Facilities are located.

Don't you have to know a vet who does AI ?

I also know about the puppy back clause since I had to do this with a cat breeder ( that went terrible wrong and lasted 3 years !)

I dont mind puppy back but then I would have to trust and know this person very well.

I am shocked a little on how much stud fee is lol. Poodles are such high end animals lol.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are talking about standards?
Miniatures have such smaller litters that those stud fees would be way high for their variety.

Shipping semen is expensive. I paid over $700.

Roxy, there is a big one in San Diego, another decent in the Hollywood area... around here Vegas. They are everywhere but does make for some traveling still as not everyone lives in the big cities. :)
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are talking about standards?
Miniatures have such smaller litters that those stud fees would be way high for their variety.

Shipping semen is expensive. I paid over $700.

Roxy, there is a big one in San Diego, another decent in the Hollywood area... around here Vegas. They are everywhere but does make for some traveling still as not everyone lives in the big cities. :)
Yes I am speaking for standards, I figure mini's and toys should be cheaper.

Well I live like 5 miles away from hollywood. Do you know the name of the facility ? I find that funny how there is one in hollywood since its such a PETA freak city lol

Was the $700 just for the shipping and not the price of the actual semen ? or is that the price total ?
 

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Yes, it's called CLONE West, I'm pretty sure that's the name. City wise... Burbank? I can't remember exactly but in that area.

No, that was just shipping... well, getting it put together, shipping it, and then sending the tank back. This was domistic, in the US...
 

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Oh I would like to give you advice... if you are thinking about collecting Enzo, the one near you wouldn't be my first choice. Look for a place that does, what they call, pellet. That is the best.
Unless they are doing it there now, but they were not last I checked.
 

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Yes, it's called CLONE West, I'm pretty sure that's the name. City wise... Burbank? I can't remember exactly but in that area.

No, that was just shipping... well, getting it put together, shipping it, and then sending the tank back. This was domistic, in the US...
O hell lol That is Expensive but I bet it was cheaper than just shipping your bitch out right ?

thanks so much for the info I really Appreciated it ! One reason why I love you breeders being a part of the community :)

I found it woodland hills is right near my school and pasadena is only a 15 or less drive :D
http://www.wcpc.net/c_l_o_n_e__west.htm
 

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Oh I would like to give you advice... if you are thinking about collecting Enzo, the one near you wouldn't be my first choice. Look for a place that does, what they call, pellet. That is the best.
Unless they are doing it there now, but they were not last I checked.
O well this has nothing to do with Enzo at all lol. I would think it would be pointless to collect Semen from a dog not proven yet.

that reminds me I need to call Chris for that Dr she recommend to do hips in Monrovia. I would like to take Enzo there before she leaves.
 

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Part of the process is to check it first so it's not a 'bad' idea.
I know of others that collected, before neutering, and unproven dog, as it looked good.
But I wouldn't bother with it until he's been genetically health tested, at least.
 

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Part of the process is to check it first so it's not a 'bad' idea.
I know of others that collected, before neutering, and unproven dog, as it looked good.
But I wouldn't bother with it until he's been genetically health tested, at least.
Yeah I totally agree. Since my sister and I are still in college saving money is big key. We where going to go halves on a black puppy we found but it fell through. So now we will take that money and get some health test done on Enzo.
 

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Stud fees and AI

We just paid $3,000 for the stud fee and the frozen semen AI because the stud dog was "snowed in". $2,000 was the stud fee and $500 + was for the insemination, slightly less than $500 for the vet holding the semen. (Fedex charged $295 for the shipping, included in the charge.) This is for a very strategic breeding, especially pedigree wise, and it's Standards. Ultra sound says we're expecting 6-8 pups middle March.
 

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We just paid $3,000 for the stud fee and the frozen semen AI because the stud dog was "snowed in". $2,000 was the stud fee and $500 + was for the insemination, slightly less than $500 for the vet holding the semen. (Fedex charged $295 for the shipping, included in the charge.)


Wow... how did you get that done so 'cheaply'? :)

Frozen is more expensive as you have to 'rent' the tank... so you have a shipping fee going both ways. (I paid close to $700)
Shipping fresh is 'suppose' to cost me $400. Perhaps that's what I was quoted to include their fees of collection? I understood that to be just the shipping, over night with Fed Ex across the country.
I can see I better spend more time talking to the actual clinic!

Trying to learn from your post... so you are saying that you paid about $3000 for everything? Stud, collection, shipping and the AI?! That is SO REASONABLE!
Why am I looking at just the AI as costing me $1200?!
AND you have puppies on the way! Congratulations!
Risky business (AI) but looks like I'll be trying (and crossing fingers and toes) this way next time.
Will this be the bitch's first litter? I'm dealing with a maiden, which also throws a wrench into the situation.

Karen
 

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We just paid $3,000 for the stud fee and the frozen semen AI because the stud dog was "snowed in". $2,000 was the stud fee and $500 + was for the insemination, slightly less than $500 for the vet holding the semen. (Fedex charged $295 for the shipping, included in the charge.) This is for a very strategic breeding, especially pedigree wise, and it's Standards. Ultra sound says we're expecting 6-8 pups middle March.
I think stud fees have totally gotten out of control. It is one thing to pay $2000 for a stud fee in California where the going puppy price is around $2000. However, a breeder in New Mexico was quoted $2500 by a California stud dog owner and the best she can hope to sell her puppies for is $1200. Consequently, the breeding did not happen.

Dagnyreis.... who did you breed to? What is the pedigree of the litter you have coming?
 
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