I see them listed on craigslist all the time in the Sacramento and Bay Area pet listings. There was a beautiful red male listed a few weeks ago. He seems to have found a home since the add was removed. Anyhow, check craiglist!I want to get a 2nd one to play with moose, something 3-6yrs old I think... that way I don;t have two super hyper dogs hehe :moneymouth: