Standard poodle eyes

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wishpoo

Discussion Starter · Nov 25, 2009

Ok, I know that eyes should not be too big, should be almond size, wide set, and not too light in color.

But - what is too big ? And what is too light (talking about black poodle) ? And if any of the white is seen when dog looks strait at you - is that permissible ???

Any photo comp. would be VERY appreciated !!!! I am looking at the illustrations (drawings) and it is hard to "get the picture" . I can recognize great eyes in a puppy, but I am wondering about another spectrum. How far from "perfect" is really "too far" and absolutely unacceptable in a show ring.

Thanks a lot in advance !

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KPoos

· #21 · Nov 25, 2009

Okay I DO like the almond shaped eye. While the standard calls for oval, I think the almond looks tighter. The collie eye is definitely the triangular. Harry has oval but they are loose and show too much white. If I were to pull a topknot on him you'd see tons of white.

wishpoo

Discussion Starter · #22 · Nov 25, 2009 (Edited)

Oh thanks everybody for the input !!!!

CBrand - thank you very much for trying to clarify whole thing !

Would you be so kind and comment on the 2 sets of eyes I posted ? Are black-eyed poodle's eyes than very wrong ??? Both shade and the shape ? (page no 1)

Also - do eyes change shape when puppy grows - could you be so kind to comment the "before and after" photos

that I posted !

Roxy- thanks for the illustration ! Very nice examples : ) ! Wish dogs come exactly as those drawings ; ))), it would be than so easy to "place them" ; )), if you know what I mean LOL I looked lately at about 100 puppy photos (all from exceptional lines and variation is unbelievable !!! Both in the same litter and between different lines !!!)

cbrand

· #23 · Nov 25, 2009

wishpoo said:
Oh thanks everybody for the input !!!!

CBrand - thank you very much for trying to clarify whole thing !

Would you be so kind and comment on the 2 sets of eyes I posted ? Are black-eyed poodle's eyes than very wrong ??? Both shade and the shape ? (page no 1)

Sometimes it is hard to judge an eye from a single picture because it is better to see the eye in action... so to speak.

For a Brown poodle, I think that is a pretty good color eye. Again from the standard: Brown and cafe-au-lait Poodles have liver-colored noses, eye-rims and lips, dark toenails and dark amber eyes. It would be interesting to discuss exactly what "dark amber" is because I know that Brown breeders shun any eye that hints at yellow.

Eye shape on the Brown looks loose and a bit round though. I think the eye on the cream looks pretty good.

I always liked the eye on a cream boy I bred named Taylor.

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cbrand

· #24 · Nov 25, 2009

Here is a eye I really do not like.

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wishpoo

Discussion Starter · #25 · Nov 25, 2009 (Edited)

CBrand - thanks so much for your help

!

Since first pup is actually black (his face got this brownish sheen on the full sunlight ), than it is even bigger concern :smow: right ? He is about 4 mos old now and definitely not jet-black , but would be considered black. I also think it would not be "kosher" to put the whole photo ; ) - so we have to work with this
small excerpt

hwell:. The whole body hair that is long is actually black..ish lol

Again - thanks for finding time to explain it all

!!!

wishpoo

Discussion Starter · #26 · Nov 25, 2009

Oh boy - those are really strange eyes ??? That is NOT pretty : ((. I never saw eyes like that on a poodle !!!!

cbrand

· #27 · Nov 25, 2009

wishpoo said:
Since first pup is actually black (his face got this brownish sheen on the full sunlight ), than it is even bigger concern :smow: right ?

Ooops! I should read more closely. Yes. That would be considered to be a light eye on a Black poodle.

KPoos

· #28 · Nov 25, 2009

I don't like that either. They seem too close together. I have a hard time finding brown dogs that have the type of eye I like to see in a poodle.

cbrand

· #29 · Nov 25, 2009

KPoos said:
I don't like that either. They seem too close together. I have a hard time finding brown dogs that have the type of eye I like to see in a poodle.

I think it is the pink eye rims. They just don't frame the eye well.

wishpoo

Discussion Starter · #30 · Nov 25, 2009

Kpoo - maybe CBrand is actually right about the color of the first pup!!! Maybe my leg is pulled LOL . I was told that he is black and he IS very dark , but not jet-black

hwell:. Maybe the fact that his snout has a brownish sheen is actually sign that he might be dark brown when he grows up - sheeeesh :doh:

Thanks Cbrand for "opening my eyes" LOL Sometimes we see that something is off but just could not pin-point of WHAT @: P ! Second or even third pair of eyes is always good to have a look : ))) !!!!

wishpoo

Discussion Starter · #31 · Nov 25, 2009

I think that eyes of the brown that Cbrand posted are just really toooo small and also really round - beside being pink-rimmed and light - I mean - they are really off : (. Almost look like some congenital thing going on ...

taxtell

· #32 · Nov 25, 2009

wishpoo said:
I think that eyes of the brown that Cbrand posted are just really toooo small and also really round - beside being pink-rimmed and light - I mean - they are really off : (. Almost look like some congenital thing going on ...

That or a bad surgery? Tacking gone wrong?

Poor dog.

We have two spoos that come in to the clinic, and I know the owners spent a pretty penny on them, one of them has eyes almost exactly like the black dog cbrand posted, and the other one's eyes are REALLY close set. I hate that look, it makes them look like they aren't very smart. Then again, these two spoos are completely untrained and out of control, so who knows.

cbrand

· #33 · Nov 25, 2009

wishpoo said:
I think that eyes of the brown that Cbrand posted are just really toooo small and also really round - beside being pink-rimmed and light - I mean - they are really off : (. Almost look like some congenital thing going on ...

Scary thing? That is a breeding stud dog.

wishpoo

Discussion Starter · #34 · Nov 25, 2009

OMG :wacko:

Who would like that as a stud ??? Just strange things happening "out there"

hwell:

spoospirit

· #35 · Nov 25, 2009

this is a good thread. I hope other's join in with opinions and examples. I am relieved to see that Billy and Taffy have the oval eyes. Taffy's may be just a tad loose but she is young yet.

wishpoo

Discussion Starter · #36 · Nov 25, 2009

Hi Spoospirit : )) ! Glad you like this topic

Yes - I really wish more members "chirp in" with more examples : ))) !

I just LOVE this face - pigmentation is incredible for example and expression is just soooo sweet (smooooch LOL). (it is a 12 week old pup)

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KPoos

· #37 · Nov 25, 2009

Nice pup wishpoo, I do like expression on this one.

roxy25

· #38 · Nov 25, 2009

what do you think of Enzo's eyes ?

I will take some updated ones once I get home.

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KPoos

· #39 · Nov 25, 2009

I like Enzo's eyes.

jester's mom

· #40 · Nov 25, 2009

Great thread. We should definitely have more like this. Different aspics of the poodle... sure would be helpful for everyone. And, anyone looking at pups and want to have a pup that is well conformed, even if they are not going to show it, could definitely benefit from these type of threads! Always different to read the breed standard and look at pictures/photos of poor/good examples. I really like this thread... can't tell can you? LOL

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