[LONI'S]

Hi all!

My pup was at daycare yesterday, having a wonderful time. We've asked that she be rested every once and awhile so they separate her and a few other dogs for cool down period. Well, yesterday was her first time having that cool down outside.

They put them in an enclosure separated from another by a 7 foot fence. Another one of her spoo friends came to the other side of the fence and starting barking up a storm. My sweet girl was up and over the fence within a minute. Didn't scale it or climb, just a running jump.

Somehow, I don't think the 6 foot fence I was planning on getting installed will be enough. Do you advise letting the fencing guy install the angled barrier or home owners?

Any more aesthetically appealing solutions?

 

[reraven123]

I had to put an electric wire around the top of my fence to keep my Giant Schnauzer in. He would hit the wire once and then I could turn it off for about six months, then he would be up and over again and I would turn it back on.

 

[Eric]

Wow, how old is your puppy?

 

[PeggyTheParti]

This is just blowing my mind! Scary!!

We've only got a picket fence in our yard. Peggy could easily sail over it, so this is a good reminder to never leave her unsupervised.

Even supervised, I suppose she could get spooked or excited and take off. Yesterday she got a glimpse of the lawnmower and LOST HER MIND. Hysterical barking and growling, and then she abruptly stopped when my husband turned it off and let her check out the scary machine. I assumed all was well until I tried taking her out for a pee and now she just wants to stand at the fence where she saw it.

 

[MaizieFrosty]

There is no way in heck your pup jumped a 7' fence. Maaaaaybe scaled it, but still unlikely. We have a 6' fence and it safely contains our dogs.

I just had to look up what the highest a dog has jumped after reading this. Here is the world record holder:

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/23431-highest-jump-by-a-dog?fb_comment_id=824569754257902_961685103879699

 

[lily cd re]

Yeah, seriously not a clean jump over a 7' fence. She had to have used the fence, especially since it sounds like chain link since the dogs could see each other through it. The record jump that MF linked to was just shy of 6'. Be aware that in residential areas there are often height limits on fences, usually 6 feet.


Personally if I had a dog at a day care situation where such reckless behavior had even a small likelihood of occurring (or worse becoming habitual) I would be disinclined to continue using it. For that matter I am not sure why most people think their dogs need doggy day care.

 

[MaizieFrosty]

For that matter I am not sure why most people think their dogs need doggy day care.

I have to admit I used it a few times for Maizie when I just needed a break from the puppy/teen shenanigans. She told me pretty quickly she didn't want to be there, so I listened.

 

[LONI'S]

Yeah, seriously not a clean jump over a 7' fence. She had to have used the fence, especially since it sounds like chain link since the dogs could see each other through it. The record jump that MF linked to was just shy of 6'. Be aware that in residential areas there are often height limits on fences, usually 6 feet.


Personally if I had a dog at a day care situation where such reckless behavior had even a small likelihood of occurring (or worse becoming habitual) I would be disinclined to continue using it. For that matter I am not sure why most people think their dogs need doggy day care.

I never stated that I feel she needs it, but I do utilize it when I'm in class and everyone at work so that she is not alone for hours on end. It fits in our lifestyle and she is happier for it. It's rare that she goes.

The fencing thing has taken us for surprise. Sure, she loves to jump and spin but I'd never even seen her test a fence before. She's never bothered with their 4 foot fence either. Now that we know, we will reevaluate her daycare and start fence training.

The fence is a wood fence without horizontal slats. Only vertical. There are no footholds. Here's a picture of one of the fences from her updates below. There's no way she scaled that. I wasn't there to tell you for certain, but however she did it she definitely got over it.

I've been a long time lurker of this forum and there have definitely been other members who have posted that their dogs cleared their 6 ft fences with ease. I don't think I'm alone in this fear.

 

[Rose n Poos]

I did what you did and searched thru old posts for fence jumpers. I don't know if it's practical for your property but one member added a "no man's land" second barrier a few feet in front of the tall fence. I think it looks pretty nice.

Here's the link. It's the picture in the first post:

https://www.poodleforum.com/5-poodle-talk/234561-how-high.html

 

[PeggyTheParti]

I'd love to use doggy daycare once a week, or even once a month, just to get Peggy acclimated to our local boarding facility. If she liked it, it would be wonderful knowing she had a place she was comfortable in for unexpected trips or planned vacations.

But a bit too pricy AND there's a waiting list!

 

[dogsavvy]

Loni's,

I've had more than my fair share of escape artists of different varieties. I'm not going to get into what's possible. I've seen dogs do things that I would have never thought possible. I will say if she's a high flyer then you won't ever be able to truly trust her to stay behind a fence. You can train until your legs fall off however if something motivates her more on the other side... alleee-ooop! You must be super careful about putting a wire up top due to safety reasons. If she's managing to jump or spring board off of something to go that high (I speak from experience as I've had a dog who used other dogs OR ME to springboard off of). Hooking a foot in the wire could be a mess for her. So you could put the dealies up there that lean in but make certain you put something solid threated through there so she can see there's a lid on the box (so to speak). Often times this will do the trick.

If she's doing any scaling, climbing then you can simply put something slick at the level of where she tries to hook in & she will sliiiiiiide & it'll stop her from it once she is corrected by sliding each time. A climber works best with electric fence. Because they're not moving with tremendous momentum like they do when they jump or springboard.

If I got to have my dream fence it would be solid block wall on a poured concrete footing, perhaps 4-5 feet tall with some sort of decorative rail on top. This prevents my dogs from sounding off on my neighbors' business but it also prevents my neighbors from teasing/harassing my dogs... which sadly has happened. The worst of these is the person who thinks they are a master in training dogs & their behavior when in fact... ugh... just no. This dream fence of mine is among the safest but it's quite pricey

 

[scooterscout99]

I wish that my spoo were friendly with all dogs, as occasional day care would give him some play time that his 11 year old ‘sister’ can’t provide. Last evening was typical . . they played chase while I did yard work, but it was short lived as my older dog doesn’t have the energy of my spoo. Arranging doggie playdates has proved too difficult for me with work, etc. ?

 

[Mufar42]

Wow major jump..I only have a 4 ft no dig garden fence across my backyard. The rest is a stockade 6 ft fence. I am lucky the none of my dogs has scaled a fence but then again they are never outside unsupervised so that could be reason. We have covenants and I can only put a 4 ft picket fence along my backyard. The rest 6 ft is allowable. I have no clue what would work. I have used doggy daycare in the past for my terrier, it was good until she kept getting kennel cough. They were strict about shots but apparently a new strain came in that year and we stopped going. It was a nice time for her. I kinda wish I did it with my poodle I think he would be better socialized from it. I think its a nice break for them occasionally as opposed to sitting home alone all day everyday. But we all do what works for ourselves, dogs are creatures of habit.

 

[twyla]

If my 14 yr old pom/chi can sail over a 4 foot gate well you understand. My poodles respect the gate/ fences.

 

[SamieNorman]

Loni's, I could understand your concern for sure!! I think I would get a tall fence that is wood (cant see through) and do the "No mans land" like "rose n Poos" suggested!!! If my Norman was a jumper, I would do anything to make him safe. I know Lowes or Home Depot have lots of fencing options that are (to me) aesthetically pleasing.

For the daycare, I wish I could send Norman to one every once in a while! There is a great one here in town but it has a very very long waiting list. They are so great that they are building another facility!! I think if your dog enjoys going, send them! Some dogs thrive in large pack sizes! Some people do not believe in daycare, and that is understandable! Everyone's lifestyle, like you said, is different! Daycare would be perfect for ours but since it is booked, we make it work without!! (lots of puzzle games LOL!) If your pupper likes daycare, send her! Making our dogs happy should be our top priority, if not why do we have them??

Maybe ask if you can get a video of the jump? (If they have cameras) This could help you see if she might have used anything for leverage or if shes just that good!!! Also if they do not have cameras and if they happen to separate her again to let her rest, ask them to record on their phones and see what happens! They may have a faulty fence system going on and need to rethink it !!

Good luck!!!

 

[dogsavvy]

Just remember any time you think something's impossible... that's what everyone said before they saw it the first time.

A friend reminded me that you can also put something along the top of the fence that moves. Scary eye balloons come to mind due to the fact that they're used to spook off birds of prey but that might look pretty silly, as if you've a fear of hawks or owls. but if you got something that you could thread above the top of the fence through those lean overs & give it enough room that it could wave in the wind, it might be just enough to deter her because it's always moving in a different manner. I know a few folks that this has worked with their dogs. One used a metallic 4 inch stuff that wasn't really plastic but reminded me of plastic. Another used the stuff you put up for sun screen. They cut it in long strips & hung it at the top & at the bottom of that lean in thingy. For the dog they look at this & it changes their perception of if it's safe to go over.

Another very crafty elderly woman with a Siberian Huskey who could jump, climb, & scale like it had cleats on its feet, went to Hobby Lobby & got these beautiful tassels. Then she got really pretty clear or frosted Christmas lights & she stretched & twisted them around the base of the dealy for the top of the fence (I'm talking about the 3 wire lean in thing). So she had a fence that she explained to the home owners association that she turned the lights on at night not only for safety purposes of her dog but also they provided a nightlight so she could see in her yard. (She had had an intruder hiding in her back yard once who was a prison escapee). So her concerns were valid. The dangly tassels were dark & quite pretty even if they were unusual. The HOA approved the irregularities on the fence & the Huskey remained inside her fence from that point forward.

 

[lily cd re]

LONI'S I seem to have offended you at some level. I apologize.



As to fence jumping I just don't recall much discussion on that as an issue. I don't worry about fence jumping since our dogs have all been taught to respect gates and other sorts of barriers. Even though the poodles could certainly jump the gates they are familiar with they just don't do that, but training to respect fences does sound like something you need to work on.

 

[MaizieFrosty]

I've been a regular on the forum for a few years, and I also don't recall this being an issue with poodles. My poodles would never dream of jumping a gate, even a small one. Just naturally, mine respect boundaries better than other breeds. No training required, at least for my dogs.

 

[Thailand/London]

There is no way in heck your pup jumped a 7' fence. Maaaaaybe scaled it, but still unlikely. We have a 6' fence and it safely contains our dogs.

I just had to look up what the highest a dog has jumped after reading this. Here is the world record holder:

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/23431-highest-jump-by-a-dog?fb_comment_id=824569754257902_961685103879699

it’s very possible I had a male Rottweiler who would leap over 6ft fences like they were nothing no running start or anything. I got him as a rescue his previous family tried everything to stop him from escaping and nothing worked he got picked up by the shelter twice and they told them the third time they would not release him back to them. my neighbors shortly after I rescued him got chickens at night when no one up he would leap over the fence kill a chicken and bring it back over the fence with him and in the morning I would go in my backyard to find a dead chicken we tried everything from kenneling him which didn’t work because my female Rottweiler would break him free. One day we left him in the house so we could go do errands got a call from an animal sheriff that our Rottweiler was leaping back and forth over my fence. Turns out he managed to get a window open break the screen jump out the window into the backyard and then leaped over the fence because he wanted to play with the neighbors Maltese. Thankfully all was well he loved little dogs it just scared the neighbors and they were too scared to go in their backyard with the 140lbs Rottweiler to save their Maltese so they did the only thing they could think of and the Sheriff got a good laugh out of the situation. But during this time I never thought about calling genesis I’m sure there’s plenty of other people in similar situations who didn’t think about calling or capitalizing on the situation.

 

[Poodlebeguiled]

The trouble with Guiness records is that only a fraction of statistics are gathered. Not everyone reports their dogs' jumps most likely. I have no doubt there are dogs that can jump a 6 ft. fence or higher. I knew of a dog in Idaho that jumped out of his fenced yard. I think it was a 6' fence. The dog that bit me jumped the 5ft fence in his yard and that was not a large dog at all...maybe the height of my knees or a tad taller. One of our GSDs jumped over our 4.5 ft fence we had in the front yard. That wasn't that tall I guess.(I scolded him harshly and he never did again. That was many years ago) Coyotes, I know for a fact can jump a 6 foot fence or higher.

Check out this GSD

Wow. That was one difficult Rottweiler. Terrible about the chickens. Glad he liked little dogs. My Dobe liked little dogs too, grew up with them. But he didn't want to go far from my side. True velcro. lol.