I am not sure how my SIL is going to react if she finds out, but hey my brother gave me the go ahead!! They were a pair of Oysters and I was super nervous, but Dutch seemed to do pretty well!! I need to go back and finish him up tomorrow. How does everyone get the face done with them moving so much? He didnt move like I expected him to , but he still did move to where me a first timer was scared. For those of you without grooming stations what are your tips? I did notice the clippers were getting warm pretty fast so I am going to have to watch that. He did REALLY well on the feet considering there were 4 other dogs running around. I am proud of myself and my little "gray ass"!! That is what I call him!! His butt is starting to turn colors!! So funny, he looks and acts liek an old soul!! Sorry so long!!