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I am preparing my shopping list for Charlie's arrival. Please let me know if I am missing anything.

Food - She's currently on Pro Pac, but I was going to change her food to Life's Abundance per the website's advice where I bought her from but now knowing that they aren't as reputable as I thought I'm unsure about their food suggestion. I will discuss it with her vet, but what food do you suggest for toy poodles? This is the food the site I bought her from suggests: HealthyPetNet Product List)

Nutri Cal

Bed - this I have a question on...she will be sleeping in her crate. Am I to put the bed IN her crate or just make that comfy for her and the bed is to be outside of the crate as a place for her to relax when she's not in the crate?

Litter box, dog litter

Brushes - I saw a thread earlier about brushes and I was like "oh, I need to buy those?" ha. All I know from pets is what I've seen friends do with theirs and I've never seen them brush their dogs. Is this a poodle thing?

Toothbrush? - Am I supposed to brush her teeth? How do you do that?

Toys

Harness - everything I've read says a harness is better than a leash on toy poodles bc leashes can hurt them.

Collar

Shampoo? - How do I bathe her and how often? And where? She's little so maybe in the sink rather than the tub? Or maybe I should buy a baby bathtub? Do I need to buy "dog" towels...if there is such a thing..or just use a regular towel? Do they even need towels? Ha please remember this is my first pet ever so I'm kind of clueless.

Food and water bowls

Treats - any suggestions?

"Car seat" - should I invest in some form of car harness for her or should I put her in the crate and take her in that to the vet? Once she's had her shots I plan on taking her places with me so I should probably get some form of vehicle restraint eventually, but until then she'll only be traveling to the vet.

Vain stuff...I know this might sound ridiculous of me, but I really want to bottle feed her. Is this something I shouldn't do unless she needs it? I just think those little bottles are so precious and I want to give her a bottle! And I'm thinking of getting a stroller too later on.

Am I missing anything?
 

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Pinky,

You have so much fun/shopping to do before your baby arrives. Let's see:

Food: I agree, switch her over to a new food, as what the breeder is feeding her is no good. Two good sites to check out for information on food are the dog food project - everything you wanted to know about dog food and nutrition.
The Dog Food Project - How does your Dog Food Brand compare?

If you just wanted to find out how food rates, check out dog food analysis:
Dog Food Reviews - Main Index - Powered by ReviewPost

Since your baby is a toy, whatever dog food I get, I would go with small size kibble so that it would be easy for her to chew. Here are a few options:

Holistic Selects Small Breed Puppy Holistic Select - Nourish Puppy Health Small & Mini Breed - Anchovy, Sardine && Chicken Meals Recipe
Innova Puppy Pet Products - Healthy Dog Food, Natural Cat Food, Gourmet Dog Biscuits ? Innova Holistic Pet Food
Orijen puppy food Puppy
Acana puppy small breed Champion Petfoods | ACANA | Products - Puppy Small Breed
Evo small bites grain free Meat-Based Pet Food – Premium Dog Food, Cat Food, Ferret Food, Dog Treats – EVO Pet Products

Bed can be any cute little bed that appeals to you. If you are going to use a crate, you need one that would be just the size of your little girl and only big enough for her to sleep in, so she doesn't soil it. With crate you normally just use the crate liner that the pet stores use. How long do you plan to leave her in a crate? If you are gone at work all day, you might need a playpen with cover so that your baby has a large area to stay in where you can put her pee pee pad, bad, toy and attach a water bottle.

Did I confuse you yet?


For potty training, it's best to find out what if anything the breeder used to potty train her. I suspect that no potty training was done, so I would choose whatever method you prefer: either litter box with litter, piddle pads or synthetic grass. Do you have a preference?
 

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For right now I'm home most of the day. I plan on leaving her in there when I leave but I plan on not leaving her more than 3 hours at a time. Once school starts next month then I will be gone all day. So I should probably get her a playpen...would a baby playpen do or do they have special ones for dogs? She's only a toy so is a cover necessary? I don't think she could really climb out..or did you not mean a cover on top? I'm going to use dog litter.
 

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A lot of paper towel and Nature's Miracle

Canned pumpkin (in case she has an upset stomach)

Ear cleaner + cotton balls

Puppy kong toy Puppy Kong - Small - - DogToys.com

For treats: I recommend Zuke's mini treat as regular treat
Zukes Mini Naturals – Dog Training Treats, The Perfect Training Treat for Dogs

and I use the Natural Balance roll as the high-valued treat (cut that into small cubes)
**** Van Patten's Natural Balance® Dog Food Rolls

p.s. I have tried using those synthetic grass and they get really stinky after 3 days no matter how hard I tried to clean it. Nickel chewed on the puppy pads like crazy. So for us, the dog litter is the solution and I'm super happy with it.
 

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Eek I have to clean her ears? Ah I hope I don't hurt her! I read that you have to clean their eyes daily too. FREAKED me out. I hate anything going near eyes. I can't even put eyedrops in my own eyes. How do you guys clean your dogs eyes? Or maybe they just mean the area around the eyes?
 

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Brushes and combs: Poodles need to be brushed/combed regularly and I actually use three different things. For longer hair on head, legs, tail I first use a good pin brush the one that doesn't have any round balls on it, it brakes the hair. I love, love, love the Madan brushes and found a great place to get them at: toplinepet.com The brushes come in three sizes regular, small and oblong. I have regular size and for poodle hair the black with black pin cushion would work best. If you get the oblong or small you can get any color you want as they are the same firmness as regular black. I also use soft slicker brush for short hair on the body and for longer hair, always keep it honest with a poodle comb. Chris Christensen - BUTTERCOMB #004 POODLE COMB CC combs are pricey, but well worth it.

Tooth brushes- I don't have advice, as my dogs use raw bones to keep their teeth clean.
I do recommend, puppy teething toys, as she is going to need them.

Shampoo: I would use a gentle puppy, tear free shampoo and wash her in your sink.

I prefer harness with a leash to a collar and a leash, as you don't want to hurt her neck if she pulls. You can also put collar with her i.d. tag on her when you are out and about. I would not leave any tags on he at home, especially if you are using wire crate of playpen, you don't want the tags getting caught between the wires.

I love and use car seat with my Havanese. He hated traveling in his crate, but loved to be high up, looking out the window. I have a lookout II car seat with a drawer underneath, great for keeping his leash and toys and treats. Here's the link: Snoozer LookOut 2 Dog Car Seat
There is also a much cheaper option made by outward hound: Outward Hound Pet Lookout Car Booster Seat - Small - Kyjen | Outward Hound | Pet Carriers | Pet Strollers | Auto Accessories for Dogs | Outdoor Gear for Dogs

Vain stuff: I think strollers, carriers, little bags are wonderful as long as you remember that your dog was meant to walk, not just be carried and pushed around in a stroller. As for bottle feeding, I can't imagine doing that, unless it was a newborn who didn't have mommy's milk.

Happy shopping.
 

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Oh thanks for mentioning the tag getting caught in the crate factor, I hadn't considered that. Those brushes are kind of pricey...I don't mind paying $16 but do I need to get 3? That adds up...or is there one that I can get in the meantime and get others later on?
 

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Oh thanks for mentioning the tag getting caught in the crate factor, I hadn't considered that. Those brushes are kind of pricey...I don't mind paying $16 but do I need to get 3? That adds up...or is there one that I can get in the meantime and get others later on?
Oh no, you only need one, just pick the size you want.
 

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For right now I'm home most of the day. I plan on leaving her in there when I leave but I plan on not leaving her more than 3 hours at a time. Once school starts next month then I will be gone all day. So I should probably get her a playpen...would a baby playpen do or do they have special ones for dogs? She's only a toy so is a cover necessary? I don't think she could really climb out..or did you not mean a cover on top? I'm going to use dog litter.
If you have a baby playpen, that will work. If not here's a couple of options:
http://www.petedge.com/product/Iris-4-Panel-Pet-Containment-Pens/56188.uts

North States Pet Yard XT - Foldable Dog Pen Available Online from PETCO.com

I am not sure if your little girl would be able to get out of the playpen, I guess not if it's high enough. Only time will tell.
 

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I suspect your dislike of yucky stuff is going to get challenged pretty quickly with a puppy in the house!

Do get her used to having her teeth cleaned ASAP, and do it regularly. For a tiny dog, check out the Lintbells toothcleaners - I have heard good things about them, and they are much easier to use than a toothbrush. Small dogs are very prone to tooth problems - tartar can build up rapidly to the point where it causes gum disease, loose teeth and bad breathe, and the infection can affect the dog's heart, etc - prevention is very important. If her bite is a bit off (the vets use the word malocclusion, which sounds terrifying, but means the same thing) you need to be especially scrupulous.

Eyes - cleaning eyes means wiping them with a soft, damp cloth. You can buy special liquids and pads, but warm water (no soap) will do fine unless she has an eye problem, in which case I would talk to your vet. She may have tear staining. This is a dark, reddish brown stain under the eyes - very common in small dogs, especially when they are teething. It doesn't hurt the dog, but looks messy - again, I would ask your vet for advice, or ask on here. There are lots of inexpensive ways of managing it.

Ears - some people clean their dogs ears, some don't. I subscribe to the nothing-in-your-ear-smaller-than-your-elbow school of thought - you are far more likely to do damage poking stuff into them than leaving them aloone, as long as they are clean, pink and sweet smelling! Your vet should check them for ear mites - very possible if she has come from a crowded environment, but very easily cured with ear drops. Poodles do need their ears keeping clear of the fluff that grows there - if you are having her groomed very regularly, your groomer should be able to manage this, but it would be sensible to ask to be shown how to do it. Do brush her and comb her every day - it is a really good way of snuggling and bonding with your puppy, as well as keeping her coat free of painful mats.

Bottles - I can understand you want to baby her, but at 8 weeks she is more like a 2-year old child than a baby. If you encourage her to suck on things, it could become a lifelong habit, and a very annoying one! Remember you are taking on responsibility for raising a happy, healthy, well-balanced dog - just as with raising children, that is going to mean helping her to grow up, rather than keeping her a baby. That may mean that the things you love (frilly frocks, baby bottles, strollers) she hates, and the things she loves (cat poop, raw bones, shredded facial tissues) you hate! Bet your mother has already been there! A bag would be a good idea for taking her out to see the world while she is tiny - gets her socialisation started without risking infection - but she also needs exercise, and as soon as possible needs to be sniffing, running, playing, and being a dog. She has probably come from a very unstimulating environment - her brain will need new experiences (but not too many too fast) to develop properly.

Would it be a good idea to ask if you could have a session with the veterinary nurse when you take your pup in? I am sure they would be more than happy to advise and reassure you, and it can be really helpful to have someone you can call if you are worried. I make a habit of taking my pups on social visits to the vets as soon as they are fully immunised - they get weighed, have a cuddle and a game with whoever is free, and a treat as well. Mine LOVE going to the vets!

Most of all - have fun!
 

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the greyhound (metal) combs are seriously the best. get a very good quality one you will not regret it. it'll last a lifetime!

you'll have to get used to routine at-home grooming with a poodle (ears, paws, eyes, teeth). start early so your pup gets used to being handled.

oh and when not being crated, i do recommend keeping puppy to a confined space until he/she is mature enough to handle the freedom of roaming. we do so at home with a baby gate - it is so so useful. especially when work men are inside the home.

can't wait to see pictures! good luck.
 

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Don't forget to put Pet Insurance at the top of your shopping list - I think it was mentioned on your other thread. Take out a really good, lifetime care policy. If all is well when she is two or three you can consider reducing the policy coverage, and making sure you have savings to cover all eventualities, but for now it should be right up at the top of your list. She won't care what colour her bed is, or whether she has her own special towel (although you may!), but being covered for vet treatment over the first few years may be a life saver.
 

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Keep in mind that this is a dog. Not a baby. I doubt the dog will want to be bottlefed, or toted around in a stroller. Treating her like a baby will do you and her a great disservice. Forget whatever the celebs have taught you about dog ownership...the majority know next to nothing.
 

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Canned pumpkin? Do I give her that in addition to her food or as a substitute?

I looked at Petco and Petsmart online and couldn't find the Lintbells toothcleaners. Is that something I can buy at a store or can you send me a link as to where I can buy one?

I bought the brush you recommended, Poodle Lover. I bought a small one in pink :)

FJM, I think I'm just going to enroll her in Petsmart's "Wellness" program. It sounds like everything she will need: Dog Health Care: Optimum Wellness Plans at a Dog Hospital Near You - Banfield

Bluepoosmommy, what grooming do I have to do with her paws? When not being crated she will most likely be with me. I live in a faily small apartment so there isn't much for her to get into, lol. But I think I will close the bedroom and bathroom doors when we're in the living room.
 

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I just want to point out that what you are looking at at Banfield (who I would personally avoid as I have heard of very few good experiences with them and saw a lot of clients switch away from them) is NOT insurance. I posted 2 links in your other post, go look at those. Insurance covers the unexpected things like illness or injury. The Banfield plan covers basic wellness stuff like vaccines, heartworm and spay/neuter.
 

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I've heard good things about Banfield. What's the difference with having insurance? When I called to make my appointment they said with that program I wouldn't have to pay for her check up and vaccinations, heartworm stuff and so on. I don't know what else she would need. I don't even have health insurance so getting it for a dog seems a bit ridiculous to me. If I had insurance wouldn't I have to make some form of co-payment along with having to pay a monthly premium fee? You have to keep in mind I'm a college kid...I'm not even working right now. It's taking all of my savings just to pay for the puppy itself and these extra things are REALLY adding up.
 

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You definitely need to train her to be comfortable in a crate since you will have to use it when she goes to a groomer or the vet. office, among other things.

You will also need to use crate for an easy potty-training.

I also would advise you not to "bottle-feed" your dog - she is weaned by now and needs to learn how to chew to have healthy teeth and proper jaw development. That also applies for walking. No matter how small she is - she is a dog ; ) !!!! By treating her as a baby you can possibly endorse some serious behavioral problems : (.

Wishing you the best of luck with it all :)
 

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I'm a college kid too and insurance will save you a lot of heartbreak if you end up with a big vet bill. Basically with pet insurance, you pay X amount monthly for your plan and when something comes up, you pay for the visit, submit your paper work and the insurance company reimburses you.
Anything can happen. her poor breeding could mean she develops a disease or problem that is costly. She could get sick and need to be hospitalized. Vet bills add up fast and it is awful to see an owner put in the position where they have to euthanize their pet because they can't pay for the treatment (or even diagnostics sometimes).
If money is an issue, I would start calling other vets and getting estimates/seeing what their wellness plans are like. In both areas I've lived, Banfield is one of the most expensive options all around.
If you can't afford the insurance, start a savings account now and put a decent amount in after every paycheck. You need something as a backup in case of emergency.
I would also sit down right now and make a budget. Cut out eating out, going out, etc so you can have money to save/for insurance and other things your puppy will need. Puppies aren't cheap.
 

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Yeah, I can't see myself not going out anymore just to save ha. I'm not much of a saver. I'll just keep my fingers crossed for the best :)
 

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Oh, I have another question, when I was looking at the insurance stuff it asked if she was microchipped...is this something I should do?
 
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