Prey Model, RAW, etc.
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I feed them outside so there isn't any raw meat on my kitchen floor. I take them outside and put it in their bowls and they usually pull it off into the grass. There really isn't a mess left over because they eat everything. They will use their feet to manuever the meat around, so I guess you could wipe off there mouths/feet afterwards but there is no visible mess. The hardest part will be the stools. Most likely they will take a while to get to the right consistency. The biggest help for me is the raw feeding group on Yahoo. Join that and any and all questions you can think of will be answered. The forum is "raw or nothing" though so if you say anything about kibble prepare to get scolded.
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Our weather is too bad for outside feeding I think.. :/
I also imagine I will have to separate Flip from our Cavalier Jack, or else Flip will take his food too!
I just don't want them dragging meat around.
And thank you for the Yahoo Group recommendation!
I also imagine I will have to separate Flip from our Cavalier Jack, or else Flip will take his food too!
I just don't want them dragging meat around.
And thank you for the Yahoo Group recommendation!
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Just a quick thing for now as i have to go back to work. The yahoo group is great. I feed Riley outside all the time. He doesnt mind it, and wont eat inside. If its raining or the weather is really bad then i will shut him in the garage to eat.
I started Riley on chicken and turkey. I never removed any skin or anything and he was fine, but he seems to be able to tollerate pretty much anything. I feed prey model, and think its the best and easiest. Big pieces, no veggies, no supplements (except FBO).
I started Riley on chicken and turkey. I never removed any skin or anything and he was fine, but he seems to be able to tollerate pretty much anything. I feed prey model, and think its the best and easiest. Big pieces, no veggies, no supplements (except FBO).
How do you make sure they get the 80% meat? Unless I buy deboned chicken breasts(expensive!), I don't know what to give that is a cheap no-bone meat. I usually give a split breasts, leg quarters and a little bit of the breast. But I know that is more than 10% bone.
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Are you guys referring to BARF-lite1? or one of the other groups?
I think there is a very careful balance of bones and meat that you feed your dogs- have you read the book?
I think there is a very careful balance of bones and meat that you feed your dogs- have you read the book?
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that was my problem, LOL, I never found the book
everyone kept refering to a book (this was about 3 years ago) that had all you needed to know to feed a well balanced raw diet- but I never found the book!
keep us all up on what you learn, pretty please :ear:
everyone kept refering to a book (this was about 3 years ago) that had all you needed to know to feed a well balanced raw diet- but I never found the book!
keep us all up on what you learn, pretty please :ear:
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I definitely will keep you posted on how it goes.
I found a good link I wanted to share!
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm
I found a good link I wanted to share!
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm
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FBO= fish body oil
The whole basis of the prey model diet is balance over time. Every single meal does not need to meet every need (we dont eat like this either). If you think of what a prey animal looks like they are alot of meat, a little bone and some organs (the big game that are hunted, the leg bones and ribs are barely eaten, so even less bone when totalled).
I usually just eyeball the meat/bone ratio. If i feed chicken then i give a whole quarter (usually 2 for my boy). Mother nature gets the ratio pretty good so i dont mess with it. If i get a pork piece with bone, then i just guess. Sometimes Ry will get a bone free meal too. It all works out over time. You wont believe how easy it is and that all the worry and planning was for naught when you get into it!
A few books that i really liked (its really late and i want to go to bed, so i am not going to link them or write out the whole thing, you will be able to find them though).
Raw Meaty Bones by Tom Lonsdale. The bible on prey model for alot of people (personally never read it, but have heard good things)
A raw book by Kymathy Schultz (sitstay.com has it in their book section, lady and newf on cover, cant remember the full name of book). It gave me the courage to start, and helped me alot! I dont follow her way of feeding anymore though.
Raw Dog Food (i think!, by MacDonald, again go to sitstay.com, bulldog on the cover). Easy read, great getting started tips, helped alot.
My vets are fine with it!! Neither of them feed it or recommend it to people as a suggestion, but they support it and dont discourage people from it. This is because i gave a speech about raw diets to my clinic once and educated everyone on them. One vet is simply amazed everytime she sees Rys teeth! Even if they didnt support it i would still do it though. Some people just need education (PM me if need be and i Might be able to find my speech notes for you). Good luck! Get excited!
The whole basis of the prey model diet is balance over time. Every single meal does not need to meet every need (we dont eat like this either). If you think of what a prey animal looks like they are alot of meat, a little bone and some organs (the big game that are hunted, the leg bones and ribs are barely eaten, so even less bone when totalled).
I usually just eyeball the meat/bone ratio. If i feed chicken then i give a whole quarter (usually 2 for my boy). Mother nature gets the ratio pretty good so i dont mess with it. If i get a pork piece with bone, then i just guess. Sometimes Ry will get a bone free meal too. It all works out over time. You wont believe how easy it is and that all the worry and planning was for naught when you get into it!
A few books that i really liked (its really late and i want to go to bed, so i am not going to link them or write out the whole thing, you will be able to find them though).
Raw Meaty Bones by Tom Lonsdale. The bible on prey model for alot of people (personally never read it, but have heard good things)
A raw book by Kymathy Schultz (sitstay.com has it in their book section, lady and newf on cover, cant remember the full name of book). It gave me the courage to start, and helped me alot! I dont follow her way of feeding anymore though.
Raw Dog Food (i think!, by MacDonald, again go to sitstay.com, bulldog on the cover). Easy read, great getting started tips, helped alot.
My vets are fine with it!! Neither of them feed it or recommend it to people as a suggestion, but they support it and dont discourage people from it. This is because i gave a speech about raw diets to my clinic once and educated everyone on them. One vet is simply amazed everytime she sees Rys teeth! Even if they didnt support it i would still do it though.
Some people just need education (PM me if need be and i Might be able to find my speech notes for you). Good luck! Get excited!
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Here are the links for the above mentioned books:
http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies/servlet/product_10001_10001_39203_-1_Work+Wonders_13253_13254_
http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies/servlet/product_10001_10001_39207_-1_Raw+Dog+Food_13253_13254_
http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies...-1_Natural+Nutrition+Dogs+&+Cats_13253_13254_
http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies/servlet/product_10001_10001_39203_-1_Work+Wonders_13253_13254_
http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies/servlet/product_10001_10001_39207_-1_Raw+Dog+Food_13253_13254_
http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies...-1_Natural+Nutrition+Dogs+&+Cats_13253_13254_
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I got some great feedback when I asked about feeding raw a few months back. Here is a link to that post.
http://www.poodleforum.com/showthread.php?t=3015
http://www.poodleforum.com/showthread.php?t=3015
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Thanks for linking those PL!
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You are very welcome.
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Posting an update:
Started both of the dogs on raw this morning and it was a big hit.
Jack had 3oz of bone in breast, and Flip had 9oz of leg quarter.
They both took to it well and were looking for more when done.
So far so good, very happy!
Started both of the dogs on raw this morning and it was a big hit.
Jack had 3oz of bone in breast, and Flip had 9oz of leg quarter.
They both took to it well and were looking for more when done.
So far so good, very happy!
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Aw, their first raw meal.Posting an update:
Started both of the dogs on raw this morning and it was a big hit.
Jack had 3oz of bone in breast, and Flip had 9oz of leg quarter.
They both took to it well and were looking for more when done.
So far so good, very happy!
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