Thanks so much Tinlet for coming in my thread :rose::rose::rose:
I know that you have some wonderful parti spoos !!!! Your insight is highly appreciated since only actual parti-breeder can know particular problems of the specific "sub-group"
Unfortunately, as being ostracized from a general show world, parti continues to exist only either through real Parti enthusiasts as you are or on the other spectrum and in a great multitude by breeders who breed "for exotic colors" just to make a quick buck *sigh, and that is always a "deadly combo" : ((( Than no testing is done at all... not even hips and eyes : (((
I have a neutered parti boy I love dearly. He's a CGC and has represented our Creole Poodle Club at a couple of Meet the Breeds. When questioned about his coat/markings, my line to say was, "Solids are preferred." Our club members are welcoming to my boy, and from what I have overheard and read (aritcles in both Poodle Variety and Poodle Review) a major criticism is the lack of testing by "Parti Breeders".
Of course that is also problem with many solid color Standard Poodle breeders...and I'm certainly not trying to agree with the generalization. Just repeating, Ok!
Marques's head is beautiful and his shoulder layback is wonderful. He has an ok chest and a decent croup, but he is too long and his topline dips. He is a GIANT boy. My Mom calls him my "Baby Cow" (my parents live in the country and have a dairy down the road from them!)
If I were to have a vote, I'd wish - while Linda bred for their fabulous color - she'd also breed for a shorter back and smaller animal.
His parents eyes and hips were tested.
I would upload his CGC pic, but for the life of me, I can not figure out how! Guess I should go read the sight instructions :doh:
He is 29 at the shoulder and will be 2 years old next month.
His sire is a large male, but I took Marques last time we visited Linda, and he was larger than anyone she has by at least an inch or two. I'm concerned some of his size is my fault. I neutered him at 4 months.
There are different camps regarding neuter age, and so many studies to support whatever your position. It's my belief, though, that his "early neuter" added to his size.
He's amazingly strong and athletic and is the neighborhoods' favorite. Even with the 2 show girls in the yard and all their (this said by a little boy) Rock Star coats, he's everyone's pick. VERY sweet natured and gentle, just don't mess with Momma!
Last weight was 82 pounds...and he sleeps in the bed!hwell:
both of our parti's have passed all their health testng. as tintlet said, the quality is getting much better but there is a ways to go. although our two are littermates, their bulds are quite different. our boy is on the large side, with a wonderful front and deep chest, but like alot of the boys, a longish back. our girl is one of the better parti bitches i have seen, although she is a little east-westy. if i dyed her, i think she could go in the akc ring! LOL. i have learned alot from tintlet, when it comes to parti's, as well as solids, she knows her poodles.
Thanks all for contributing to this discussion :wave:
I am sure that parti -lines can easily be improved to AKC standard with careful planning and some are probably already there but just never allowed to enter the ring !
I am excited about new ruling that passed in Germany where parti now can be shown in their equivalent of AKC here !!!! As far as I understood from some readings the case is same with Russia :rolffleyes:
Jack : )))- I do not think that parti will ever be incorporated back into solid lines , although there are breeders of parti spoos that DO produce solids that are than carriers of parti- genes . Parti genes are recessive and both parents have to be carriers to produce a pattern.
In Germany they are not incorporated back into solid lines as a breeding stock, but just have a right to compete in confirmation in the same ring as solids.
It such a novel idea anyway, that I am sure there will be some adjustments and new regulations done over time regarding all of that :rolffleyes:
Cbrand - thanks so much for the info !!! Do you by any chance know if "day-time blindness" is something that develops more later than sooner in a dogs life ??? Would puppies have that at birth or would develop the condition in 2-3 years later , for example ???