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Phoebe and Diego both love bully sticks, and they gross my kids out since I told them what they are. 🤣 Neither really chews on the yak chews we have. Starla did, and had a cracked puppy tooth, but she would also grab rocks to bite down on outside. 🤦‍♀️

Remember that no chew is 100% safe. Diego was chewing on a veggie dent earlier (listed above on the safe list), sized appropriately for him, and got it wedged in his teeth somehow. He was freaking out until I got it dislodged. If he had been alone he might have really hurt himself.
 

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Once it gets to a size that looks like she can get it stuck and can’t hold with her paws anymore I toss. I have had to pull out a thumb length size out of her throat going down before(she was gagging) . Just not worth the risk to let her have them when they get short.
Yes, that's why they make the Bully Buddy Safety Device...to put the short bully stick in so your dog doesn't choke. Amazon.com : Bow Wow Labs Bully Buddy Safety Device - Bully Stick Holder for Dogs (XS) : Pet Supplies

I can't imagine why I find the thought of stepping over dried penises littering my rugs distasteful.

Note to self: never tell Normie that bully sticks exist.
The bully stick jokes are endless! Normie's missing out though if you never try them, dogs go crazy over them and they are 100% beef, doesn't get better than that. See, I wasn't even trying to crack a joke there!
 

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I bought 25 12" dried penis's for Basil in bulk and it's only about $4 per. That's like one fufu drink (or 2 vendi drip coffee) at Starbucks or 1 trip to 7-11... Or whatever $4 means for you.

I had to tighten down discretionary spending so Basil could have chews. Ie fewer trips to buy coffee or choosing to DIY at home, less buying lunch, and shopping for more competitive car insurance rates. Essentially we decreased two line items to make a new and necessary expense for Basil to try and protect the emergency fund.

So saying "yes" and rotating fresh sticks dont require a second thought to keep Basil occupied.
 

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I bought 25 12" dried penis's for Basil in bulk and it's only about $4 per. That's like one fufu drink (or 2 vendi drip coffee) at Starbucks or 1 trip to 7-11... Or whatever $4 means for you.

I had to tighten down discretionary spending so Basil could have chews. Ie fewer trips to buy coffee or choosing to DIY at home, less buying lunch, and shopping for more competitive car insurance rates. Essentially we decreased two line items to make a new and necessary expense for Basil to try and protect the emergency fund.

So saying "yes" and rotating fresh sticks dont require a second thought to keep Basil occupied.
I couldn't decide which reaction I wanted to give you, the laugh or the like! 😂
 

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Neo's shown no sign whatsoever that he's discommoded by it. I don't think it's been fractured for very long but there's absolutely no change at all in any behavior.

Still, this can't be put off any longer than getting a few more questions answered and then getting scheduled.

Since questions occasionally come up about costs of this or that, I'm adding the estimates for comparison. This is a private practice in a suburb on the Kansas side of the Kansas City Metro area.

Neo's with 1 extraction
479518


Remo's for the simple dental
479519
 

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Yikes - I am sorry about Neo. Hopefully the extraction goes well and that he doesn’t show any discomfort in the next little while.

Bully sticks seemed to last the longest other than the yak cheese. I also bought in bulk because although the upfront cost was significantly more it was cheaper in the long run because those things are expensive! I would use a qwizl (west paw), a bully holder or even a kong or different toy to hold the smaller pieces in. However, my spoo preferred to chew her chews with me holding them…so I would just trade it when it got too small. Didn’t really think that decision out when she was a puppy because she would actively seek out someone to hold her chew… and there’s nothing like holding a soggy bully stick. 😂 She also liked the Etta says chews, bull tails, or whimzees. They didn’t last as long as the yak cheese or bully sticks but they lasted for a decent amount of time considering they weren’t that expensive.
 

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Didn’t really think that decision out when she was a puppy because she would actively seek out someone to hold her chew… and there’s nothing like holding a soggy bully stick. 😂
Lol. Or one dropped in your lap while you’re engrossed in a TV show. We taught Peggy the same thing.

Are you for sure going with the extraction, @Rose n Poos?
 

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@Rose n Poos I'm so sorry you're having to go through this. My older dog slabbed his upper fourth premolar on a deer antler last February, and I also chose to go with extraction over any sort of reconstruction to avoid repeated anesthetic procedures. One thing that may be worth asking your vet about would be the osteopromotive agent Consil (or a similar product). The dentist at the teaching hospital in my state recommends it after the extraction of any large tooth to help avoid defects in the remaining bone in the future.

Let us know how everything goes!
 

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Are you for sure going with the extraction, @Rose n Poos?
Fairly certain, until/unless xrays insist on something else. Extraction of a large tooth presents it's own potential pitfalls, one mentioned by DD below. I had to put pause on reading of those :(. What would be really helpful in these articles would be the percentage of incidence. I mean, who'd think that an extraction could result in a jaw or skull fracture?

One thing that may be worth asking your vet about would be the osteopromotive agent Consil (or a similar product). The dentist at the teaching hospital in my state recommends it after the extraction of any large tooth to help avoid defects in the remaining bone in the future.
Thanks for the info :). Understanding of the function of the tooth, including maintaining jaw strength, wasn't something I'd considered (nor mentioned in our brief exam) until I'd got home and started researching. I hadn't seen mention of a preventative til you did.

I'm getting my list of questions together and will contact the office tomorrow to ask if I could email those before a prelim phone discussion. A few could possibly be addressed by a simple yea or nay, some will depend on what's found in the labs/xrays, and some might require contact with the dental specialist office. For now, the ducks are milling around quacking. I'm going to need more of them to line up and shut up, but fast :)
 

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Dentals and extractions for both Monday 8-30. Neo had the upper 4th premolar extracted as expected and also had the 3rd small premolar in front of it extracted, also due to fracture. Remo also had an upper 3rd premolar extracted.

There was no infection, the extractions were uncomplicated. We spoke with the vet at drop off time but not at pickup so we don't have many details. I'll be asking for more info from them but the good news is that they're both home, still a bit dazed and confused but otherwise well so far.

We did the labs last Tuesday to make sure there wasn't anything untoward to interfere. Not including the labs, the cost for Remo was just over $600 and Neo was just over $660.

They're on soft wet foods for about 2 weeks, ate tonight but weren't really drinking. I'm not going to fret until the morning over that :).

All in all, the boys are home, they're recovering, I'm happy.
 

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I'm glad it all went so well - you must have been on tenterhooks with them both in at once!
 
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The proverbial double-edged sword :)
 

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I’m glad it went well. Hopefully this morning they will have bounced back to their normal selves.
 
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