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ALBANY, NY – Legislation to criminalize docking puppies’ tails is a case study in mercy – animal rights style! It will result in tens of thousands of dead dogs in the first year alone, because there will be no way to allow them to stay alive in the face of criminal charges against anyone who owns them.

The animal rights movement is all about killing20animals, either literally right now or gradually, through attrition by sterilization. Every piece of animal rights legislation boils down to dead dogs, which groups like People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals call mercy killings. PETA, which butchers about 90-percent of the dogs that enter its “shelter” in Norfolk, VA, believes that dogs are better off dead than exploited and enslaved by loving homes.

The Humane Society of the United States uses gentler rhetoric, but also creates and supports model legislation that will result in the death of thousands of animals, such as the proposed New York tail docking ban, and supports animal shelter policies that directly result in millions of unnecessary deaths by euthanasia.

The New York legislation is perhaps the clearest illustration yet of the true goals of HSUS and the rest of the animal rights movement.

AB 7218, which is bef ore the Assembly Agriculture Committee, says that anyone who docks a puppy’s tail, or has someone else perform the procedure, is guilty of a criminal misdemeanor punishable by a $500 fine. Not even veterinarians would be allowed to dock a dog’s tail, except to save its life or for a health emergency.

The legislation also enables any New York animal rights group to act as vigilantes, hunt down violators, and petition the court to prosecute someone whose dog has a docked tail.

In addition, anyone who shows or exhibits a dog with a docked tail, or even attends a show or exhibition where dogs with docked tails are present, is guilty of a misdemeanor and faces a $500 fine.

Those provisions translate directly into dead dogs, by the truckload.

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Here’s how:

Probably a few million dogs now live in New York that already have docked tails. These dogs are from some of the most popular breeds in America, including all of the spaniels, most terriers, many herding breeds, almost all of the Continental pointing breeds, many miniature and small breeds of companion dogs, and popular companion and protection dogs such as rottweilers and doberman pinschers.

While existing dogs would be grandfathered, if they are certified as having had their tails docked before August 1, 2009, the fact is that most people who own these dogs will not know about the new law, will procrastinate, won’t be able to afford a visit to their veterinarian for certification, or simply will forget about it.

Animal rights activists will blame these people for being irre sponsible, but the fact is that the dogs will pay the price. They will be= killed, and the reason they will be killed is because animal rights fanatics supported a law that will cause their deaths. The owners won’t be able to prove the procedure was done before August 1, and will not be able to pay a continual stream of $500 fines. The result will be euthanasia or abandonment.

Some people might think that these dogs simply will be turned over to an animal shelter or rescue group. That won’t happen, because animal shelters and rescue groups also could not legally possess a dog with a docked tail.

Nor could they find them adoptive or foster homes, because those people would be guilty of a criminal act merely by possessing the dog.

It goes far deeper.

Animal shelters would have no idea who docked the tails (or when it was done) of stray dogs that are picked up or turned in, dogs that are seized from their owners because of animal cruelty allegations, or dogs that are abandoned. There would be no choice except to kill these dogs, because they could never be legal.

More dead dogs would result because puppies in several breeds (such as Brittanys and Australian shepherds) sometimes are born with naturally short tails. In a mature dog, these natural “docks” look almost identical to dogs whose tails were surgically docked as puppies. They, too, would have to be killed.

Other dogs would lose part of their tails through injuries. If tails are broken by being accidentally slammed in a door, stepped on as puppies, bitten by other dogs, or struck by heavy objects such as falling tree limbs, the part of the tail above the break sometimes atrophies and falls off, creating the false appearance of a cut off tail (sometimes there20is even raw or sore flesh at the point of the break for a couple of weeks). Other puppies have the tips of their tails broken off in the mother’s uterus.

More dead dogs would result from people who move to New York from other states, and bring their pets with them. They wouldn’t know about the New York law, and would be faced with a painful choice when they found out. They would have to either leave New York, or kill their beloved pet.

What about people who visit New York, or just pass through the state, and bring their dogs? If their dogs have docked tails, they would technically be in violation of the law if they didn’t have certification that the procedure was done prior to August 1, 2009. Almost no one would have this certification, as it is not required in other states, and the animal rights vigilantes would have a field day.

If all20of those scenarios are added up, the result would be a veritable mountain of canine corpses and broken hearts.

This legislation also would have a human impact. It would destroy dog shows, field trials and competitive events in New York, including the famed Westminster dog show.

It also would destroy the businesses of several professional trainers and handlers, and ruin some of the finest breeding programs for purebred dogs in America.

It would cost the economy of New York millions of dollars in lost revenues a year, and the loss of hundreds of jobs.

It also would mean that New Yorkers no longer would have access to dogs from the nation’s best bloodlines, which means New Yorkers would not be able to improve the genetics of many breeds of dogs in the state. The impact would be that New Yorkers would be forced to buy puppies that are inferior in terms of genetic soundness, health, utility and temperament.

AB 7218 makes no sense at all from any perspective.

Ironically, the same animal rights fanatics who say that tail docking is cruel disfigurement, probably also circumcise their own male children, pierce the ears of their own daughters, cover their own bodies with tattoos, augment their breasts, tuck their tummies and lift their faces through “vanity” surgical procedures. In contrast to what people routinely do to their own bodies, docking the tails of young puppies is an almost completely safe and almost painless procedure. Puppies experience a feeling of a light pinch for a few seconds.

We don’t believe for a moment that the leaders of HSUS and PETA think tail docking is cruel. What they really want is to kill more dogs.

Here is a link to the text of the bill: http://assembly. state.ny. us/leg/?bn= A07218&sh=t

The American Sporting Dog Alliance is urging all New Yorkers who truly care about dogs to immediately contact members of the Assembly Agriculture Committee to express strong opposition to AB 7218. Letters and faxes are best, followed by phone calls and emails. A combination of two or more is ideal. Please contact as many members of the committee as possible, as they all represent every New Yorker in this capacity.

Here is contact information for committee members:
 

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Assemblyman William Magee, Chairman
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Assemblyman Marc S. Alessi
LOB 419, Albany, NY 12248
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Assemblyman George Amedore
LOB 426, Albany, NY 12248
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Assemblyman Michael Benedetto
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Assemblyman Marc W. Butler
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Assemblyman Clifford W. Crouch
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Assemblywoman Francine DelMonte
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Assemblywoman RoAnn M. Destito
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Assemblyman Gary D. Finch
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Assemblyman Tim Gordon
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Assemblywoman Aileen M. Gunther
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Assemblyman Stephen Hawley/ STRONG>
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Assemblywoman Barbara Lifton
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Assemblyman Peter D. Lopez
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Assemblyman Alan Maisel
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Assemblywoman Margaret M. Markey
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Assemblyman John J. McEneny
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Assemblyman Bob Reilly
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Assemblyman Peter M. Rivera
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Assemblywoman Linda B. Rosenthal
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Assemblywoman Addie J. Russell
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Assemblyman Frank K. Skartados
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Assemblyman Al Stirpe
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Between laws like this and no state income tax, I'm never leaving Texas. Hopefully the bill won't pass. It seems way to extreme, the way it's written now. In the end, politicians really only care about money. When they figure out how much they will loose, when breeders and handlers start moving and there are no more dog shows in NY, I think the legislature will see the light.
 

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I'd imagine (hope) that this bill will have some pretty strong/powerful opposition. AKC's HQ is in New York and NYC hosts Westminster which brings tons of moo-lah into the city at a time of year that probably isn't their prime tourist season. Hummm New York... with dogs... in Febuary.... no thanks lol.

It is so intersting how extreme some groups get over what amounts to minor details of dog ownership... In the grand scheme of life I don't think docking and cropping should be such a big issue. Where are the tougher laws (than can be enforced) to crack down on real animal cruelty ??? Where are the programs to help educate the general public and liberate them from some of their old school ideas on general pet care that we now consider to be neglect? Where are the progrmas to help the disabled and the edlerly get vet care and grooming for their dogs ?? Where is the law that requires ALL shelter dog's to be spayed or neutered BEFORE being adopted?? Thats a huge problem where I live...
 

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My thoughts exactly. Who cares if a dog is docked/cropped, if it has a loving forever home? That's the important thing, IMO. I think politicians like laws like this b/c it creates the illusion that they are actually working. They can say, "Look I introduced/voted on this law, good for me!" (Can you tell I don't like politicians, LOL)
 

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Not to mention that you have a choice. There are lots of breeders who don't do tails in poodles, if you like a natural tail then they are the people you need to talk. You can buy natural ears and tails in every crop and dock breed... You can choose not to remove dewclaws in any breed. It's up to you.

So long as it's being done properly... Cutting ears with scissors and no sedation I would have a huge problem with....

Why aren't tons of animal rights folks not pushing for laws concerning declawing cats? I personaly feel that is much worse than croping or docking. It's a hot topic among cat people as I understand it...
 

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I don't have a problem at all banning tail docking and ear cropping but come on if the dog is 6 years old and they doc tails at 3 days um it goes to show you that yes it was done a long time ago.

I think it is the vets and the breeders who should be charged not the owner of the dog.

I just went through with a girl that works at petstore get her dogs ears cropped when he was already 5 months old. They told her he was to old and she finally found a vet 4 hours away to do them.

This pup was going to have major issues already as its breeder never let the dogs outside EVER so it was afraid of everything then to take it 2 weeks after get a home and do this to the poor thing
I say make it illigal let dogs be the way there were made not the way we want them to be.

Also heard of a english mastiff having its mouth sewn partially so that it didn't drool so much DONT GET A MASTIFF THEN
 

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Also heard of a english mastiff having its mouth sewn partially so that it didn't drool so much DONT GET A MASTIFF THEN

OH MY GOD..... :mmph: reading that makes me soooo mad I can hardly think straight!! I think that is a little more extreme than docking a tail... I wonder if it makes it harder for the dog to eat and drink?? Perhaps I don't understand the procedure and it isn't as bad as it sounds... but I doubt it. All I can say is WOW... Why on earth did they want a mastiff then??? That would be like refusing to feed your irish wolfhound because you didn't want it to get to big??
 

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Someone aught to blow PETA and animal activists up. So sick of hearing all this. We havnt been able to dock in Australia for years now. Its not only a $7,500.00 fine per dog/pup but also gaol time now.

Why cant someone do a documentry on this or put it on the news to America is aware of whats about to happen. The word needs to get out very quick and not just crossposting on forums. There are many ppl that dont have a computer or dont belong to forums that have no way of knowing this will happen.
 

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The madness continues !

HSUS-HSVA-AVAR-AMVA

Not just acronyms, it is secret code for “Let The War Begin!” Veterinary wars that is. Positions drawn and weapons loaded, Animal Rights vs. Animal Welfare square off.


04|21|09 TheDogPress Barbara J. Andrews - The Humane Society Of The U.S. (HSUS) created the Humane Society Veterinary Association (HSVA). The HSVA then merged with the Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights (AVAR) which claims 3,000 vets as members.

The Humane Society’s creation is a duly chartered 501c3, a tax-free “arm” of the HSUS. The Animal Rights Activists (ARA) are now well represented within the veterinary profession. Actually, they already were, this just brings it out in the open.

Your vet probably belongs to the American Veterinary Medical Assoc. (AMVA) which boasts over 76,000 vet members. Even so, it isn’t funded by public donations like HSUS and will be sadly lacking in $$$ ammunition with which to fight the HSVA takeover. According to the HSUS, the war will be spearheaded by “cutting the AVMA's lock on veterinarians who purchase the group's business insurance programs by offering alternative programs.”

The Humane Society Veterinary Association (HSVA) would be short-lived if the Humane Society Of The U.S. were to be successful in ending all domestic animal reproduction. Note the hypocrisy which doesn’t bother HSUS in the least. After all, it collects well over $100,000, 000.00 (one hundred million bucks) per year and like many other non-profits, it will use and profit from another tax-exempt “arm” capable of raking in many more millions.

Follow this simple analogy. Car manufacturers merge with XYZ Oil and two things happen. Car makers hasten to produce gas guzzlers and XYZ Oil uses its massive marketing and lobbying power to pass legislation which forces all motorists to use XYZ gas.

Now it makes sense! The ARAs (animal rights activists) are getting laws passed that force you into costly surgical neutering of your dog. The H$U$ is banking that you will use an HSVA member vet.

AVMA vets will see how cleverly HSUS manipulated such a massive increase in veterinary revenues. Ergo, the war between veterinary groups will have been won. When castration and hysterectomy surgeries are legally mandated across the U.S., the already disproportionably high cost for “neutering” will soar even higher.

Many vets have suddenly taken a position against docking and cropping. It is a specialty which most are not good at anyway and one which many therefore consider not worth the risk of complaints about botched work. Is it coincidental that with all the new spay/neuter income, Vets no longer need to rely on such surgeries? No. So they can speak out against such “needless mutilation” of dogs even though early removal of those hormone-producing organs has been proven to weaken the immune system. Ah, but weak immune systems mean sick dogs which means more income.

Illinois is just one state trying to make cropping and docking a felony offense while at the same time, forcing surgical castration and hysterectomy on puppies over 4 months. Even if you don’t have a cropped or docked breed, you can see how dog owners are being manipulated. Worse yet, when vets use their trade associations to pass laws that will generate a huge revenue at the expense of millions of innocent puppies and kittens, it is not criminal, its just “politics as usual!”

Wayne Pacelle has moved HSUS further in 6 years than it has come in 60 years. So he promises HSVA success on behalf of the ARA while at the same time, cleverly downplaying the “Animal Rights” aspect. Pacelle isn’t firing blanks in this well organized assault.

Pacelle says “With a $120 million budget, HSUS promises to provide a financial cushion for marketing HSVA, boosting AVAR's $425,000 budget and dumping the group's ‘animal rights’ designation, which officials admit burdens their quest to gain legitimacy within AVMA's ranks. Incorporating AVAR sensitivities, HSVA mission is animal protection advocacy.

Dropping the “animal rights” part of the Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights name, Pacelle continues “The nation's largest humane organization also gives AVAR the footing it's long needed to effectively challenge AVMA's defense of industrial farming practices such as sow gestation stalls and foie gras production.”

Firing one round after another, the HSUS leader says. "AVMA needs to get off its high horse. Their positions defending horse slaughter, for example, have the American public increasingly upset with them."

Pacelle’s words ring true because HSUS effectively shut down all horse slaughter houses in the U.S., putting thousands of people out of work. In case your knee jerk reaction to “horse slaughter” is agreement with HSUS, consider these gruesome facts. Because old, injured, or terminally ill horses can’t be processed in America, they are dumped on rural roads by owners who can no longer care for them, can’t euthanize them, and can’t sell them for slaughter. As opposed to instant death in U.S. slaughter facilities, horses are trucked under inhumane conditions to Mexico where they are inhumanely bled to death, their throats pierced or slashed. American horse meat fed hungry people in other countries. It fed our dogs and zoo animals. Now it does not. That has significantly raised the price of pet food and in many cases, lowered quality. See Harper on melamine contamination and Quality Control Update melamine poisoning.

Thanks HSUS!
 

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Wow where to begin, I don't like the AVMA and this group sounds even worse. The AVMA has been anti docking/cropping for some time and has tried to pressure the AKC to ban both practices. This bugs me for two reasons. 1) I've never seen and statistics showing that docking/cropping, by a skilled vet, leads to longterm pain or health problems. In fact the info I've seen show that it can prevent ear infections and tail injuries in some breeds. It is a moral and political issue, not a health issue, so it is none of the AVMA's business. 2) By discouraging the practice and the teaching of the procedures, they are increasing the chances that a dog will be docked/cropped by an unskilled vet or some creep down the street. This does cause longterm and shortterm health problems and pain. So much for "first do no harm."

I also have a problem with MSN(mandatory spay/neuter). People, like dogs, respond better to reward and praise, rather than punishment and force. People would be more willing to s/n if it were offered at a discount price or there were some kind of incentive for doing it. Perhaps discounting licensing fees or a tax break. I have a huge problem with s/n at 4 months too. That might be okay for medium size dogs, but it'd dangerous for tiny breeds and large breeds alike. At 4 months a lot of toy breeds are too small to safely be subjected to anesthesia for a non-emergency procedure. Large breeds need time to develop and mature and altering them a 4mos can lead to orthepedic problems like HD.
 

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Thank you! As you can tell it's something I'm passionate about. Another thing that bothers me about the AVMA is that they will speak about docking/cropping, but I've never heard anything about puppymills. Every puppy that gets shipped by plane or across state lines, has to be checked by a vet. Everydog at a USDA inspected puppymill, has to have vet records. The vets that work with these dogs are obviously dropping the ball. How else do explain pet store and internet pups with coccidia, giardia, worms and even parvo? I've also never heard them make a statement about health testing. You hear people all the time say, "Oh my vet checked out the parents of the pups." Why aren't those vets pushing OFA, Pennhip and/or CERF? You can't look at dog and say he has excellent hips, perfect eyes, no blood condition, etc.
 
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