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After getting our pups shots up to date I found a Poodle specific show near me in April for one day and a UKC show at the same facility a day later with all breeds that runs for three days. I plan to get a temporary registration if I take her to the UKC show but only for one day, not all three. I'm only wanting to get her acclimated to the grounds and other dogs and go in a puppy conformation class to see if she can handle it and still have fun. The show for poodles only is being put on by United Poodle Club but I'm not a member so I'm not sure if we can enter. Is anyone familiar with UPC and their showing rules? Do I need to be a member? She's a super little dog with a "look at me" demeanor, and I have shown conformation with other breeds, but if her heart isn't in it I won't push it.
 

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When I took Matteo to the Nordic Champion show, I participated in ring training months beforehand. Our local DKK, which is the equivalent to your AKC, had classes one could attend. That way Matteo got used to fx. standing beside bitches in heat (not an easy thing to ask of him), get used to being handled and touched all over by strangers, and I learned how to set a pace to present him best. There were different judges each week, so the dogs didn't get used to just one. They also had focus on different things, making me aware of what I needed to do to present him best. I also got tips on how to intercept and change his stride if he'd started wrong. It was hard work but well worth the months of training. I bought yoga blocks and practised stacking with him at home. He still self stacks nicely.
I also made an appointment with our groomer well in advance. He had two visits, one to do fft and the second to do the whole body. Her daughter had her first communion on Matteo's show day, otherwise she would have been there to do the finishing touch ups. So she groomed him and left straight to the church. I was given tips and instructions on what to do. Very helpful and I was grateful for the support. Matteo's breeder was there with one of their six dogs and were an excellent support aswell.
Try and contact your local club and see if they have som ring tra8n8ng or if they can refer you.
 

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The show for poodles only is being put on by United Poodle Club but I'm not a member so I'm not sure if we can enter. Is anyone familiar with UPC and their showing rules? Do I need to be a member?
I can't say for sure, but in my area (AKC) these events are fundraisers for the hosting club and they welcome all until they hit their quantity quota. Submit an entry form/fee early and you'll probably get in.
 

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Congrats on your new puppy and new adventures! Between now and show time, get her used to standing still on a table (if she's a toy or a mini, which is what it looks like) and being touched gently by strangers. While she's on the table, practice showing her bite, which is just the incisors between the canines. Take her to big box stores where dogs are allowed and practice walking in straight lines so she's trotting. Make all training sessions short and happy and you'll do great!
 

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I can't say for sure, but in my area (AKC) these events are fundraisers for the hosting club and they welcome all until they hit their quantity quota. Submit an entry form/fee early and you'll probably get in.
Well today after talking to some very understanding people from two separate hosting clubs I down loaded UKC entry forms for Phoebe. We will be entering as non licensed (not for points) Novice Puppy. We could technically show Novice Puppy but I'm not interested in it as she is a puppy and still growing. One show is for poodles only, the other is a three day, all breed show. I'm going to the one day poodle show and one day of the all breed. We are going for the experience and socialization and hope to learn as much as we can. Both shows are only 15 minutes from home! How lucky is that 😃
 

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Congrats on your new puppy and new adventures! Between now and show time, get her used to standing still on a table (if she's a toy or a mini, which is what it looks like) and being touched gently by strangers. While she's on the table, practice showing her bite, which is just the incisors between the canines. Take her to big box stores where dogs are allowed and practice walking in straight lines so she's trotting. Make all training sessions short and happy and you'll do great!
Sandy Topknot you are SO dear!:love: Thank you for the encouragement and knowledge!! I have shown and Field Trialed another breed but Phoebe is a new adventure and I want her to have a good time. Luckily I still have my leash, but I'll have to do her grooming myself as there are none close and I do have some experience grooming. We will be busy bees for a month, for sure!:oops:
 

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Yeahhhh! Sounds like fun!
Before my first show I went to an earlier show (2 weeks) that was happening at the same place just to walk around and take it all in. The next day I did the same thing only I brought Elroy (SPOO) too. It was a good exposure for both me and Elroy. When we went back in 2 weeks, he was relatively calm about all the hustle and bustle happening around us. He got his first (Q) in Rally Novice there. Hoping for his next one in April.
 

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United Poodle Club is the parent club for Poodles with the UKC, like the Poodle Club of America is the parent club for AKC. You don't need to be a member of the UPC to enter the show, but your pup will need to either have a UKC Temporary Listing number (fast and easy to get online through the UKC website) or else be permanently registered with the UKC, from either a UKC registered litter or through Single Registration on her AKC papers to show in the regular Licensed classes. If she's under six months on the day of the show, she can only be shown in the Non-Licensed Novice Puppy class.

This is the UKC Conformation rulebook. https://www.ukcdogs.com/docs/rulebooks/conformation-rulebook-revised.pdf

If you are on FB, this is a good group to join New to Showing Poodles (AKC / UKC / CKC / KC / FCI ) | Facebook

If you can't find a handling class locally, the this online self study class might be a good option. Fenzi Dog Sports Academy - DS230: Conformation Skillbuilding 1
 

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I had to laugh today because, after applying for my temporary registration number from UKC and filling out my classes for two separate shows on different days, my TL number did not come through. I'm laughing because I knew it wouldn't come through in ten minutes as promised. I thought...is this a sign to stay home?? As long as I get the paperwork in on time it's all go. Phoebe picked her own lead, seriously! I had a thin black nylon rope type (she put her head down and pulled) and a leather one equally as thin used with my hunting pups. She is my little fluffy, tuffy tomboy and chose the leather lead. She trots along like she's hot stuff, God love her. All that's left is the best of my home grooming abilities :oops: and things to fall in place so she can see other poodles and have fun. I really appreciate all the good advice from everyone!
 

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After reading the RULES for this particular UPC show, no photos or videos are allowed. Truthfully I'm on the fence about going right now and leaning towards not going. I recently read a post from a woman showing in another state next month that spoke very disparaging about "newbies". She is a groomer/owner that didn't want to be bothered....I get that. It really turned me off. I don't care about points or titles and maybe that's my problem. I realize now how serious this is to most competitors. I wasn't planning on setting up a table and fluffing until her class but to have her ready to go with a quick combing. I would like to have a Judges opinion but not waste his/her time. :unsure:
 

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Was that post in a Poodle showing group on Facebook? If it's the one I saw, I'd say ignore it, since it was super petty and unnecessary. It's my understanding that most people, especially at UKC shows, are pretty friendly.
 

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After reading the RULES for this particular UPC show, no photos or videos are allowed. Truthfully I'm on the fence about going right now and leaning towards not going. I recently read a post from a woman showing in another state next month that spoke very disparaging about "newbies". She is a groomer/owner that didn't want to be bothered....I get that. It really turned me off. I don't care about points or titles and maybe that's my problem. I realize now how serious this is to most competitors. I wasn't planning on setting up a table and fluffing until her class but to have her ready to go with a quick combing. I would like to have a Judges opinion but not waste his/her time. :unsure:
I would not give up participating because some people are very competitive. Everyone has been a 'newbie' at some point in time. You participate, because you and your pup want to have a good learning experience and you want a judge to evaluate your dog.
I'm in Denmark, and showed under FCI rules. Matteo is a blue spoo. Wheen I showed him he hadn't cleared at all. He has a tiny white star on his chest which was more visible at the time, as it was in sharp contrast to the black. During the show, another competitor who was very serious, told me to colour the mark to heighten my chances of winning. She told me 'everyone' does that. Well, I didn’t and Matteo was best puppy in the breed and participated in the big ring for Best dog in show. He didn't win the latter, as I obviously was a newbie. He lay down, was tired and I really didn't want to hound him. He was evaluated by several judges. Got very good remarks and the three judges said his white mismark was a negligible fault in c9mparison to the overall evaluation.
The lady who gave me, in my opinion poor advice, finished well but did not end up in the big ring. She criticised me for letting him lie down etc. Our breeder on the other hand, applauded the choice. She said he has plenty of time to grow, participate etc and it is better he has a good experience. Our breeder was there with one of her dogs.
You'll find all sorts of people at a show. Go there for your sake. Do it for fun. It's hard work and I respect the breeders who work so hard to better the breeds. However you will find people who har pushy, nasty, doing questionable things to improve their chances etc. Just like in school etc.
 

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Some of my longest-duration friendships were made at dog shows. Some of my deepest friendships were begun at dog shows. The people I count as my very best teachers, mentors and friends were met through dog clubs and dog shows.

Some of my most puzzling and frustrating experiences came at the hands of competitors at dog shows. Some of the worst behavior I've witnessed has happened at dog shows. And thankfully, most of the people who are poor sports grew weary of this one and moved on to try to win at any cost in other arenas.

You're allowed to choose who you want to hang out with. When you get to the show, find out where your ring is, look in the nearest grooming space and find the other Poodle people. If there's space for your table and chair, ask to set up near them and watch them groom. Tell them it's your first show ever. Ask them about their dogs and their show experiences and how long they've been loving and showing Poodles. Listen carefully to the answers you get to your questions - you'll learn from the information you hear, and you'll learn more from the way the information is delivered. Focus your questions towards the people who seem genuinely helpful and away from those who have bad things to say about others. When you take your dog out to potty and to walk around the show to get acclimated, tell people who ask to pet your puppy that it's the first show for you both. If you're nervous, say that, too. Let the helpful people help you - there will be quite a few, I'm guessing. When you're getting your puppy ready to go into the ring, accept any grooming help offered to you. You may or may not get hands-on help and you will probably get advice, especially if you admire someone else's puppy and ask how they got the _ so pretty and _. Fill in whatever you are admiring at the time...feet, tail, topknot, whatever.

In any endeavor there is a majority of wonderful, helpful people and a handful of people who wouldn't adhere to ethics if you tattooed the code of ethics on their skin. Through the years, the tactic for dealing with them that worked best for me has been to ignore them. When confronted with them, smile blandly and move along. When others tell you what they said about you/your dog/your momma, have something banal to say, say it without emotion, and change the subject.

There's someone who thinks I'm a perfect waste of oxygen, has been telling whoppers about me since before we ever met, and has threatened me with legal action on more than one occasion. When people find it necessary to tell me the latest tall tale, I say something like, "people who like to stir up drama do it not to hurt the other person - they do it for the attention it gives them." And then I change the subject. Take that sentence and run with it, use it as needed, and I hope you won't need it! ;)

The rule about pictures is probably wildly disregarded. It probably is in writing to protect the professional photographer who is there to take official win photos. My guess is that when you get there, you'll see people openly taking pictures and maybe even video at ringside. And if a friend discreetly takes pictures with your cell phone camera, you can share them here and we'll cheer you on, not rat you out…don't worry about that either! :sneaky::whistle::giggle:
 
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