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Hi i introduced myself jus a few days ago i have a 16 month of toy poodle called tilly an i brought my new mini poodle home yesterday an i new it wil take time but tilly is not impressed! she is not snappin or bitin she is runnin away although she has quite a timid nature anyway im wonderin wil she some around? Dougal my new mini jus wants a good play an tilly is not having it! i am givin them both time out an supervisin them closely an tilly has her crate an dougal his an feedin them at differnet times an so far so good with potty trainin he seems to go straight to back door!:) i jus wanted any advice or little excercises i could:) do them to help them along without bein forcefull? i took tilly a little walk on out:r own last night jus for half an hour jus as we would usually before bed so hopefuly she wil not huff to long!
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Well done on giving Tilly her own space, and walking her alone. I would keep her as far as possible on her usual schedule, giving her lots of attention and cuddles just for her, especially if she is inclined to be nervous. Don't let the new pup bully her, which he can do even if he is tiny! Take it slowly, don't force her to accept him, and I am sure she will come round - she is hardly more than a pup herself.

When I introduced Poppy to Sophy I did it at my sister's house, which was neutral ground. You may find it helpful to take them somewhere together where Tilly is relaxed, but not guarding her home territory? The first evening in together in my house Sophy spent the whole time grabbing stuff back from Poppy - "MY toy!". "MY chew!", "That's MY toy, too!", "That's my VERY BEST toy!" - anthropomorphic, I know, but that is exactly what she would have been saying! I found she could count up to five - I kept putting chews down till she stopped claiming them - she took the first five off to a corner, and then Poppy was allowed to have the sixth. I quietly gathered up the spares later when she forgot about them. We have had very few problems since, although I am careful to avoid situations where there may be conflict.

One really important thing with a second pup is to ensure he gets lots of socialisation away from Tilly - he needs to learn to stand on his own four paws without big sister to rely on, and also needs to learn that other dogs may not be as long suffering as Tilly! Plan to walk him alone every day (doesn't need to be for long while he is tiny), and enroll him in a good puppy class. Research has shown that second dogs are much more likely to have problems with aggression than first dogs, mainly because owners think they can leave the work of socialising their puppy to big sis or big bro - and pups need much more than that.
 

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Wel i am currently lookin for puppy socialisin classes but provin hard to come by but somethin i want as i didnt for tilly an i notice her lack of socialising! today tilly snapped at hime when he came to curious around tillys treat but i shouldnt have treated tilly with dougal there i feel a bit more positive today an i no i wil take time an i have 3 weeks off so hopefully we wil be ok :) they are rouning around together but its more tilly runnin away....she is more like a big hamster than a small poodle hehehe any advice would be grateful!
 

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Three weeks should be enough to sort things, I would think. Don't be cross with her if she growls or tells him off - she has a right to protect her space, and it sounds as if he is going to be quite a bit bigger than her. Do take him off for a game away from her if she is getting stressed. It can be a lot for a dog to cope with, especially if she is used to having long, quiet, lazy days at home alone while you are at work. I find myself echoing all those things my mother used to say to us as children - "Don't tease your sister!", "If you can't play nicely with that toy together I will put it away", "I don't care who started it, I'm finishing it - NOW!" Young animals do seem to be very similar, regardless of species (my elder sister was very, very sympathetic to Sophy about the advent of a new baby who threatened to get all the attention ... !)
 

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Wel atm tillys very calm an asleep an dougal is chewin chewin chewin on everyhtin but i have lots of visitors rouns to c dougal since yesterday but its been big fuss over tilly first! they noth jus need to learn there boudarlies with each other but tilly is home alone about 4 or 5 hours everyday an she is fine but not lazy she is stil very playful like a puppy so i think when they get used to each other an tilly rrealised he may be useful to her lol i think they wil have loads of fun! he has such long legs but then i havent really seen a miniature before he is adorable! im rambling an tryin to convince myself it wil all be hunky dorey but it wil......wont it lol :) ps thanks for the replys:)
 

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When I brought the Standard puppy home, Kodi wasn't impressed at first either! It took him a while before he accepted her. Kodi was the only dog, and was used to getting all the attention. Even though he'd met her twice and loved playing with her, when she came home with us he was quite annoyed!

Tilly will get used to Dougal. I never thought Kodi was going to accept Mia. But they are curled up together taking a nap as I'm typing this! We still have little spats over high value items, like raw bones. But for the most part they live in peace. They each still get alone time with me and enjoy it very much.
 

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Aw that makes me feel so much better! they were playin a little in the garden there an it looks so cute i think they wil eventually b the best of friends but its the bits in between im worried about lol but fingers crossed :) ill p ost sum pics when i get:) a chance!
 

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Yes - my two are curled up beside me at this very moment. Give Tilly and Dougal time - it is only the second day! You have three whole weeks to get them settled, and then all the lovely months to come to play with them, socialise them, and educate them into being fabulous dogs. Relax and enjoy!
 

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jackson is not happy we hve a pupp. But he's settling in . Don't get after them for snarling- but i do give a "be nice" when he gets too snarly.

It's also OK for the older dog to 'tune' the younger dog. If the pup ignores snarl snarl lifted lip snarl snarl- snap (although puppy will go screaming like it's dying) is just the dogs way of teaching "Snarling is not to be ignored!
 

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Tilly may be setting boundaries, the pack order and ground rules for the puppy. It took about 2 months for Jasper to settle in even though Lilah took to him right away. She is definately in charge and reminding him that she is higher up in the pack. I don't interfere unless it looks to be going too far and I remind Lilah that I am alpha around here. It works out well - good luck!
 

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Sophy used to do the big sister thing over anything that was against MY rules too - she told Poppy off in no uncertain terms if she jumped around on the bed at bedtime, or played up in the back of the car. Worked like a charm! Poppy was a very "soft" puppy, and could get very upset if I got too gruff, but simply accepted rebukes from Sophy as another lesson learned.

One game that I have found very useful is the "One for Sophy, One for Poppy" one. I have both dogs sit for treats, and then they get one in turn as long as they don't push or barge, and take them gently. There were a few arguments at first, but they soon caught on, and it helped them to learn to take turns, and not to grab. I also play tug with different toys - one in each hand - so that they both get to play. Multiple toys also seems to be the answer to chase and retrieve, as well - although Poppy will spend ages trying to pick them all up at once.
 
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