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It’s hard not to take such an aggressive and hateful remark personally, but as others have said it is really more about the jerk on the bike than your handsome poodle. Not worth the emotional energy to engage with him. He needed to ruin someone’s day. The karma bus is going to catch up with him and he’ll be on a bike...
Oh please, please may I i use your great karma bus saying??

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Prejudice behaviour towards Poodles is common. I have 3 neighbors that have doodle mixes and I almost feel like they shun my dog because he is a purebred poodle. They get together to walk their dogs and do not invite us. My dog is a toy, so they may look us over due to his small size,
They might be doing you a favour. Sad to say, most Doodles I have encountered at dog parks are spun crazy. Hyper, and not well trained. Your dear Poodle might get knocked about. Our Charlie now weighs nearly 85 pounds, so can easily dominate any wild Doodle at the park.

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If it happens almost twice a month you might as well be prepared to make it interesting or entertaining. Don't give people like that the pleasure of upsetting you. As others have said, anyone who needs to poke fun, or especially be outright nasty, to try to make themselves feel superior has a problem themselves, it's not you or your dog. Unfortunately many people are imitating our countries leader who is acting like a bully right now too. I have no clue why they would want to do so.

You can choose to ignore and pity them, or you could take it as an opportunity to become a poodle advocate, or even have fun with it :) Think of a few comebacks you could have ready in your pocket to pull out anytime you are thrown off guard. They can either be true, or something outrageously made up. It could even make them stop and think.

Q: "What compels someone to get a dog like THAT?"
A: "I choose my men and dogs for intelligence and good looks :)"
A: "His Mom came in top place at a national dog show, and chose me for her pup. How could I say no?"
A: (Sadly) "His owner was killed by a bus in front of my eyes and I rescued him."
A: "He saved my life when I almost drowned in the river !"
A: (Looking down) "He was a present to my little boy who died of brain cancer last week."

Q/Comment: "Is that a male? Can't be possible - ridiculous - it looks way too girly."
A: "You should have seen the size of his balls! I sold them to a big Russian Dude for $3,000 !!"
A: "He beat a Pit Bull in a dog fight,.... but he's really a lover once you get to know him :)" "Come on over and meet him!" (You could even teach your dog to growl on command as a trick)

Comment: "I just chop off all his fur, it's less cruel than making him look stupid" ...gestures ... "Like that."
A: Call out with a grin - "Sorry to offend you - he just took a first in the Chicago dog show! Do you show?"

These are just off the top of my head. I am sure you can come up with even some better ones ! And then practice role playing with a friend.

My Spoo is white, so very often he got mistaken for a 'she'. So I let him grow a beard on his chin several inches long. Guys, especially those with beards often commented, pointed, laughed. They always get a big charge out of it, and some even blush, when this 74 year old lady says: "I like my men with beards!"

Don't give them the power to offend you, or your hunk of a dog!
I just loved your spunky comments. LOL about the Russian....

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This remark struck me. It is one of the first things my sister (who has a Toy Poodle) said to me when she met my SPOO Joey. "why is his tail long". And I swear she still thinks maybe I got "taken" by the Breeder LOL
Docking is banned in most Canadian municipalities, so you see a lot of long tails around here. Really interesting seeing Doberman and Schnauzers with long tails. We love our Charlie's 360 degree fancy tail

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I would love to meet you on a walk! We would get along very well. I too can make laser eyes and have a great RBF when people are rude.

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I think Canada is stunning! My aunt (husband side) owns a cabin on a little island out there. I was only there once as a teen but everything was beautiful, and the people were so nice! Minus the bears we encountered.
 

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Here's what I have to say about this:

The real reason people are resistant to getting a poodle, to their dogs looking too "girly" or "frou frou", the reason for the "doodle" trend, imo, is internalized misogyny. It's not about how the show ring haircuts look "weird" or "snooty" or "mean", whatever that means. It's because people are afraid of being perceived as feminine, like there's something wrong with being fucking female, like that's inherently weak or some bullshit like that.

I mean, we all know poodles are great dogs, that they're retrievers just like labs and Goldens, that you can cut their hair like fucking anything and they don't shed and have loooowwwww allergens and the temperament to do basically anything. Purebreds come with a formula - you know how to work with their temperament, how to groom their coat, and given you got them from a reputable breeder, you know where to turn for advice. And you're guaranteed a health tested dog. A healthy, well-bred dog. None of that is true for a doodle, or frankly, any other kind of mix!

Poodles are great dogs; no wonder everyone wants at least a little poodle in their life. But somehow we all have this idea that dogs can somehow be inherently gendered. Somehow people STILL think the FEMALE GENDER IS BAD. STILL. IN FUCKING 2020. GUYS. IT'S FUCKING 2020. CAN WE ALL GET OVER THIS ALREADY.

I should add: I am a woman. And I still struggle with this. And really, that's bullshit. There's no such fucking thing as a "girly" dog. It's a dog. Get the damn dog that fits you. They're fucking great, athletic, sound dogs. "Girly" is not an insult, and people need to stop using it like it is, and how can a dog's haircut determine its sex like I cannot even. We are truly in the era of the Idiocracy. But thankfully, we know better.

Okay, rant over, thanks for reading.
 

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I think Canada is stunning! My aunt (husband side) owns a cabin on a little island out there. I was only there once as a teen but everything was beautiful, and the people were so nice! Minus the bears we encountered.
We like tourists and tend to treat them well. Come visit once life returns to normal

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Here's what I have to say about this:

The real reason people are resistant to getting a poodle, to their dogs looking too "girly" or "frou frou", the reason for the "doodle" trend, imo, is internalized misogyny. It's not about how the show ring haircuts look "weird" or "snooty" or "mean", whatever that means. It's because people are afraid of being perceived as feminine, like there's something wrong with being fucking female, like that's inherently weak or some bullshit like that.

I mean, we all know poodles are great dogs, that they're retrievers just like labs and Goldens, that you can cut their hair like fucking anything and they don't shed and have loooowwwww allergens and the temperament to do basically anything. Purebreds come with a formula - you know how to work with their temperament, how to groom their coat, and given you got them from a reputable breeder, you know where to turn for advice. And you're guaranteed a health tested dog. A healthy, well-bred dog. None of that is true for a doodle, or frankly, any other kind of mix!

Poodles are great dogs; no wonder everyone wants at least a little poodle in their life. But somehow we all have this idea that dogs can somehow be inherently gendered. Somehow people STILL think the FEMALE GENDER IS BAD. STILL. IN FUCKING 2020. GUYS. IT'S FUCKING 2020. CAN WE ALL GET OVER THIS ALREADY.

I should add: I am a woman. And I still struggle with this. And really, that's bullshit. There's no such fucking thing as a "girly" dog. It's a dog. Get the damn dog that fits you. They're fucking great, athletic, sound dogs. "Girly" is not an insult, and people need to stop using it like it is, and how can a dog's haircut determine its sex like I cannot even. We are truly in the era of the Idiocracy. But thankfully, we know better.

Okay, rant over, thanks for reading.
I was a woman business owner and president for many years. My last name was on the banner over my company,s trade show booth, as well as on my name badge . Still had men asking to "speak to the boss" . One potential supplier was introduced to me as the company's president/owner, but turned his back on me and addressed his entire pitch to my 6 foot 3 inch, 270 pound son, who was helping out that day. I walked away, unnoticed. The guy finally wound up his sales pitch and asked my son if my company would sign up as the Canadian representative . The answer my thoroughly enlightened son gave was priceless. "You were introduced to, then totally ignored the founder and president of our company, who makes all new product line decisions. Our company is very successful, so she gets non-stop bids for representation. You had your chance and blew it."

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Really liked your comment. Amazing what Haters can find to hate .We travelled extensively to the USA (we are proud Canadians) and are usually given a warm welcome. Occasionally, however, our Canadian license plate invites some nasty diatribes. Usually about our "socialist " country. Funniest one was an unprovoked rant from some guy at a gas station. He was a sorry sight. Ratty clothes, greasy hair, junk yard car and a mouthful of black teeth. He swaggers past, looks at our plate and starts yelling at us and our #*?!+ "socialist" country. My husband just smiles, says "yup! Free medical care and hospitals for everybody , free prescriptions for seniors, free dental care for the needy , social assistance for those who need it - what's not to love!" Thought the guy would choke.

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By the way, a big smack-down to the ignorant old Git who criticized your Malcolm Gladwell book! Both my husband and I went to Malcolm,s high school, his parents and my in-laws were friends and we've had the opportunity to speak with Malcolm several times. We LOVE his insightful books and podcasts!!

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I was a woman business owner and president for many years. My last name was on the banner over my company,s trade show booth, as well as on my name badge . Still had men asking to "speak to the boss" . One potential supplier was introduced to me as the company's president/owner, but turned his back on me and addressed his entire pitch to my 6 foot 3 inch, 270 pound son, who was helping out that day. I walked away, unnoticed. The guy finally wound up his sales pitch and asked my son if my company would sign up as the Canadian representative . The answer my thoroughly enlightened son gave was priceless. "You were introduced to, then totally ignored the founder and president of our company, who makes all new product line decisions. Our company is very successful, so she gets non-stop bids for representation. You had your chance and blew it."

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Awesome!!!! Kudos to you, and to your son! Thank him from me:) I am grinning ear to ear. I have had similar situations with contractors, supervisors, builders, roofers, car dealers, department heads, CEO's, etc!

You have made my day, no wrong, you and your son have made my year!
 

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Haha! I'm a female CAO and I hired a female Parks Manager. One day I used the washroom in a park and noticed this beautiful mural painted on the outside of the stalls. I later told her, so this is what happens when chicks run a town, lol.


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I've attempted to type up this post many times in the last year and a half as it's a consistent problem me and Zael have been having.
Welp, I finally feel peeved enough to post it... 'cause I need a wee rant. I also have to know if this is a universal poodle owner problem or if I just live in a really toxic area.

Basically me and Zael, from time to time, will randomly be stopped by some stranger on the street that absolutely needs to tell me what they think of my poodle... most of the time it's something nice or sweet, like they wanna say how cute/handsome he is, ask me questions, ask to pet him, or to tell me about their own poodle/doodle... but more frequently than you'd think, it's someone trying to ether poke fun at my dog, or just be outright nasty.

The comment and actions that has sparked this threat to finally be posted today is that some butthole who saw me and my dog minding our own business in our local park, actually stopped his bike, went out of his way to get my attention, and then point at my dog while shaking his head and saying "What compels someone to get a dog like THAT?" in this super nasty and mocking tone. I was so shocked someone had actually went out of their way to get my attention, and then turn around and be so mean. I couldn't find anything to say back at him... I just wandered away mumbling something about poodles being hypoallergenic. It was only after the guy cycled off that I got mad and upset, I wish I'd given him a piece of my mind or been able to come up with some witty retort. Looking back now, I dunno if he was just trying to be funny and ended up sounding super rude... but ether way, it just seemed so inappropriate and out of nowhere. Not cool.

Anyway, this may be the first time that someone has actively pursued my attention to insult my dog, but it's not the fist time people in passing have said things. Like for example, I had some old man stop me to ask a few questions about what kind of poodle Zael was, only for him to almost violently refuse to accept the fact that my dog was male. Basically, in his eyes, Zael looked to "girly" to be a boy. The man acted like I'd just insulted him by answering his question, jeezo.
Another time, a woman and man where in the dog park with us and I over heard them talking about their Bichon Frise to another couple (I'm paraphrasing) "Oh yeah, you know Bichons. They're meant to be all froofy and puffed up but I don't do that. I just chip off all his fur, it's less cruel than making them look stupid" the woman talking then gestures at Zael and goes "Like that" before realising I was in ear shot and wandering further away.

I know it's childish to whine about stuff like this, but I need to get it off my chest because it happens almost twice a month, and I've only had Zael since January of 2019, guess I've got 14 years of this to look forward to lol.
Thanks for reading anyway, typing it out has helped me blow off steam and I am genially curious, is people insulting poodles a universal trend or do the people around me really need to talk a chill pill.

Feelgood Bonus: Overly fluffy Zael, ready to see his groomer who is thankfully re-opening next week.
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I would have said the same A-hole that sold you that bike! Then just laugh and walk away.... it’s about what you think and NO ONE ELSE! My sister always says “never let anyone steal your joy”
better words could not be said! Just enjoy your Fur baby!
 

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Oh wow, I forgot to check this post after I posted it. Thank you so much for the understanding, also thanks for the laughs, I've enjoyed reading it all. It's a shame though, I get the feeling that if I lived in America I'm sure me and Zael would fit right in...
Also, I'll agree with what a lot of the other people here are saying... being called or thought of as "feminine" is a rather bad thing around my area, everyone's trying to look tough/hard so that when someone isn't trying, it's very noticeable and you essentially have a target on your back.

But I do have some funny news for you all, a man hopped the fence today to get into our local dog park to see Zael, assuming he could just roll up and start patting him. Unfortunately for him, Zael has a very large protective streak, while he'd never bite anyone he sure as hell can chase and bark for all he's worth. That man ended up running all the way back to the fence. Thankfully we had a laugh about it with the guy and he got to pet Zael, but hopefully that taught him and anyone else watching that the "girly dog" can be as scary as some of the more butch breeds lol.
 

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Awesome!!!! Kudos to you, and to your son! Thank him from me:) I am grinning ear to ear. I have had similar situations with contractors, supervisors, builders, roofers, car dealers, department heads, CEO's, etc!

You have made my day, no wrong, you and your son have made my year!
Thank you! One of the proudest achievements of my husband and myself was successfully raising a son who is an ardent feminist! He used to play football for University of Waterloo - 270 pounds of rock hard muscle, and the gentlest man off the field. He organized a bunch of his football buddies to take place in a march entitled "Walk a Mile in Her Shoes" to raise funds and awareness for a battered women's shelter, where he often volunteered as a chef. These huge guys put on red high heels, dresses and lipstick and tottered down a main Street in ultra macho Calgary in the parade!!! Very proud Mama here.

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I really enjoyed reading this thread. My girl is a ten year old spoo. She is the best girl. When I first got her we went to obedience and agility. It was so much fun! While there we met so many people with all the different breeds. Big Danes and small toys, rescues and yes even doodles. In my humble opinion no matter the breed, the dogs were only as good as the owners. Well, sometimes I loved the dogs more lol. It seems this thread started out as what was my dog being judged, and went to Some judging of other dogs. Doodles are perfectly fine in my book. I have met some very smart and loving doodles with very smart and loving owners ❤
 
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