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I have been looking for a female black spoo (husband wants black, I just want a spoo), and happened upon a breeder that I think is awesome that has only white males. She does puppy temperament testing, and I have spoken with a couple of folks that have adopted pups from her that simply rave about their boys. It seems that all the lay people (by "lay" I mean people that don't have experience with spoos) insist that females make better pets. They say that females tend to be less rowdy, easier to potty and obedience train, and to just live with in general. I'm thinking that I should purchase a pup based on it's temperament testing results and not its sex...does anybody else have any advice or thoughts? Anybody end up with a spoo of a color other than what you (or your spouse) thought you wanted? I have a sweet little female cocker spaniel and also want a puppy that is likely to get along with her.
 

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I think it depends on what YOU want in a dog. Don't go by what other people like in a dog's personality, they aren't living with the dog for the next 15 years. I tend to like a less clingy dog. My female is more that than my male. He has to be laying at your feet and then up the minute you move out of the room. He is also more anxious not to have us around than she is. The temperaments are going to vary regardless of gender. You can have shy males and shy females, outgoing males and outgoing females. It's just sitting down and making a want, can live with, and definitely don't want list, and going from there when making a decision.
 

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I am interested to see what people say here... I don't have any good insight. My husband wanted a boy who would learn to lift his leg in the yard so that we don't have yellow spots on our lawn. :)
 

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I entirely disagree with the lay people you have been taking to. I love my girls with all my heart, BUT....given the choice, I would rather live with males than females. The girls love you...after you feed them. Their purpose in life is looking out for numero uno -THEM - before they worry about their humans. Unless they are spayed super young, which I do not agree with, their mission is survival of the species, and keeping themselves healthy to reproduce.

A male on the otherhand has a sole concern in life-his people. He is more devoted and dedicated to the welfare of his humans. The only time you see a male's loyalty waiver is if there is a bitch in heat nearby, and most males don't even get too uptight about them unless it is the second week of their heat.

As I said, I love my girls, but me, my late Mom and every breeder I am friends with feel the same way about the boys, and if someone knocked on our doors today and said we could only have one gender of dog, we would all pick males.
 

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I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you Arreau but we are all entitled to our opinions. There would be absolutely NO female dogs in search and rescue, no female dogs as bomb sniffing dogs, no therapy dogs nothing if that were true. Females can be just as loving as males just in a different way. No, they are not as protective of their home but they are still very loving and protective of their pack.
 

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I don't think there is a one size fits all on this. My female Suri is super motivated to be by my side all the time. She is my shadow. I have boys and girls and it's up in the air depending on the day of the week.

As Olie get's older he is the same, lovable a lot of the time. I like the dork factor of Olie, maybe a boy thing maybe not, but he is not as needy as Suri is.

I would go by the temp testing not sex of the dog. I would be happy either way.
 

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No, they are not as protective of their home
Tell that to Meau when she's barking her FOOL HEAD OFF at our ninety year old next door neighbor who she's seen a thousand times!! She's such a GOOF about protecting her "turf"!

I LOVE my pack of girls and they all love me in different ways... My late mini-dachshund, Meika, was my heart puppy (lost her last May to a variety of incurable illnesses) and she wanted nothing more than to be on me, by me, with me whenever possible. Hannah, my mix, is like that now - I was making something in the kitchen just this morning and she insisted on being underfoot! I couldn't open my lower cabinet doors without making her move (then she'd just come back and lie down again) I finally escorted her to her bed in the dining area and told her to stay there so I could get my work done!

Of the two female spoos, Meau is much more clingy than Lucy (and Lucy is more clingy with my husband than she is with me) but that's OK with me - It makes it that much nicer that when she DOES come to sit by me it's because she's made a decision to do that - not because she's neurotic and can't be away from me.

I'll not say that I will never have a male dog, but at this point in my dog-owning life; I have to say I love my girls!! :)
 

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Thanks for the opinions guys. I was thinking that maybe I should add this question...do puppy temperament testing results seem to be accurate as a general rule? I realize that a lot would depend on variables like the tester, whether the pup is tired etc...but given all that is equal, do you think the temperament testing gives a good picture of puppy personality?
 

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I think temperment testing is not 100% accurate. It DOES provide a pretty good idea of the dog's adult personality by its not perfect all the time. YOU have to also be a smart cookie and pick the puppy you like, then bring it home and mold and shape its personality to fit your family and lifestyle.

I would always choose a male over a female. I love my girls, but I'm not in love with them. They call them bitches for a reason. My boys are more eager, willing and happy-go-lucky! The girls think I am here to wait on them.
 

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Thanks for the opinions guys. I was thinking that maybe I should add this question...do puppy temperament testing results seem to be accurate as a general rule? I realize that a lot would depend on variables like the tester, whether the pup is tired etc...but given all that is equal, do you think the temperament testing gives a good picture of puppy personality?
YES!!! Definatey gives you as baseline to go on.
 

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I have only had males. I have also heard that males tend to connect with the whole family insted of one person and they can be less moody. But like I said I have only had males and I'm sure this is just "what they say" ;) Both my boys like everyone depending on who is handling out the attention or treats. They are both even tempered and laid back but this also the way our family is ((most of the time)) Niether of my dogs were tested. My first I just knew that was the dog I wanted. The second I wanted a male and black and there was only 1 black in the liter I wanted black because the white toy was so had to keep clean I could only imagine a white spoo. So I have a white toy male and a black male spoo.
 

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I personally prefer male dogs. I can't even give a solid answer why, I just like them better. I can't comfortably see myself happily owning a female dog. I don't think I would "connect" as well with them. Even just dogs I meet, I generally like the males the most. Females are great, but something about male dogs draws my attention more, I tend to like them better. -shrug-

It's just totally my own personal bias though. I have no clue why, but I've always been like that. Male animals only, I never really had that desire for a female pet
 

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Ugg. I haven't responded to these threads before. I think personality traits really do not polarize to the gender of the dog. Each individual has their own unique personality that is supremely poodle: male or female.

My little girls have all been super attentive, protective, sweet, loving, and happy. I have never breed, so I have always had spayed girls. Meaning that I have been spared of the behaviors females can have while they are pregnant or in heat. Behavior that could range from being possessive, grumpy, self centered, independent ect.

Alternately, I see males as being super attentive, protective, sweet, loving, and happy just as much as the females.

Personally, I do prefer females. Sorry guys, don't want to see the little red rocket or balls flailing around. I don't want to deal with territorial issues marking with pee and the possibly intense behavior of defending his female.
Let's not even mention humping everything in sight.

I know neutering helps with the marking, humping and territorial issues. However, I don't want to deal with those behaviors at all. Even with a neutered male, it would be unfair not to expect him to exhibit some maleness especially if you anticipate adding to your pack.

I also don't want to deal with constant cleaning because they can't keep their pee off of their front legs. These are my personal reasons. Whacked out as they may be, they are mine.

I think if anyone gets a female or male poodle and they take time to bond with their poodle, they will experience a truly amazing journey fulfilling in so many ways that one could never fully anticipate. My poodles have saved my life on several occasions; both mentally and physically. Their fun loving, smart intellect just can't be beat: male or female. There is no wrong choice.
 

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: male or female. There is no wrong choice.
I completely agree!!

I've only owned one female dog in my life and thats Elphie and she acts just like our boys ((of all breeds)) have acted, goofy, protective, and a cuddle bug

and I did, when I went out looking for a spoo I wanted only cream or white nothing else looked like a poodle to me (( >.> I was a bit off in the head then )) but as soon as I saw Elphie and her funky coat I knew she was mine so I have no colour preferences now as long as its a poodle I'm all good xD
 

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I only wanted a female, but I have changed my mind after owning both a male and a female :)

If I was choosing a puppy today as a pet I would only go after the personality no matter what sex it was.

The females are nice but the males are so easy going and fun to be around with :)
Not saying that I don't like females they just both have there pros and cons.

I would say that the temp is a big thing in a pet so go with the pup that fits your lifestyle the best.
 

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It is an individual choice and everyone has their preferences. There are some things we can live with and some things we can't. Some don't like to see the "red rocket" (personally, I don't have that problem with my guys - never see it unless they are urinating or cleaning said part). I have lived with males and females (about equal numbers). I prefer my boys - they are just sweeter. This is a general statement as I have lived with multiple Italian Greyhounds, a Whippet, a poodle, a Greyhound, a cocker mix and a Scottie mix.

Oh yeah... the whole "girls are easier to housetrain" thing makes me crazy - my boys have ALL been easier to housetrain than ANY of the girls I have had. :)

As for the temperment testing - Vinnie was TT'd and it was spot on (the lady that did it does litters a lot for different breeders). I think it really helps the breeders choose the right home for the right puppy.

I did not choose Vinnie - the breeder chose him for me. I told her what I wanted (a working agility, obedience, rally and possibly field dog) and that sex/color didn't really matter, but I did have my preferences on both things. She chose wisely for me and I will let her choose my next dog.
 

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I have a female Spoo and I love her dearly. She is more independent. She doesn't worry like my boys do. Even my male border collie. On the other hand, Reece completely freaks if she gets out of my sight. My girl spoo is my therapy dog, she is sweet, outgoing and loving, but is content to go in the bed room and sleep. While the rest of the family is all in the living room watching TV. She doesn't like to cuddle at all. She will give me a dirty look and walk out of the room if I even think about getting my lips close to her face or hugging her.

What I have discovered over the years is I like boys for my big dogs and girls for my little dogs. I don't know why...just my preference.

As for puppy testing, I tried that on my new baby. It came down to 2 pups. When I separated them and put them on the floor with me. One took off and had no interest in anything but his own agenda. Rune would wander around, but when I made a noise or tapped the floor he came running back to investigate. I also went a lot by feeling. The other 2 I had no interest in at all. I can't say why, they were nice pups. I just didn't feel any connection at all.
 

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3year old Black girl here. Wanted the black because I couldn't deal with the runny discolored faces and somtimes butt area of the whites and peaches. Gets a bath after terrorizing all at the dog park (water runs like ink!) between grooming.She is the boss of all the pack. She body slams a 120 pound Dalmatian/Dane mix (male). My 2 greyhounds give her lots of room. She will cuddle on her on time.Love her......well just a little....she chose me,rescued from a filthy breeder.
 

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I think either sex makes for a wonderful pet. As long as you aren't basing your decision on misinformation (males are harder to housetrain for example) I thing you should go w/ what you want. You need to decide what's really important to you and whether you are considering these white males b/c they are availble now or b/c they are really a good opportunity. If you truly want a female and/or a black Spoo then you may have to wait but IMO it will be worth it in the end. Buying a puppy is one of those areas where your head really needs to rule your heart.
 
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