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You are kidding right ? you said the meanest thingd about me and my dogs And stated that you were so glad that you could finally get this off your ****ing chest ARE you ****ing kidding me...The PMs are flying Cherie ... You have committed suicide... You cant throw stones without someone asking questions. I am sorry for you I truly am ... Good luck explaining this breeding that you have just done .. What was it for? The betterment ? I am sorry ! i do not believe that so when they are born brace yourself everyone knows .... This will be the talk of the forum .. My Rockys bull**** will be nothing compared to this Back off bijou here comes arreau ! I am sorry but it is true they are all just waiting... i know cause they hav etold me .....Please do not threaten me okay ? Rocky md a total foo out of himself today but he truly has an issue with what he brought up we really do love our dogs and cannot imagine what you do ...We do not sell breeding rights and would not be interested in fostering at least not at this point .. So he had a right to say what he did how it got construed against you I have no ****ing clue .....
i received this private message last night. I have been getting tons of private messages asking me about a few things, which have been brought to some members attention by a certain party on here. I suppose it is always easiest to try and turn the attention to someone else rather than clean your own back yard.
First of all, contrary to what some of you are hearing through private messages, Holly's testing HAS been done. I sent copies out to some of you last night, but will post her results here so you can all see them. Holly's eyes will be CERFed again before her next/final breeding. I realize that the old CERF document is somewhat difficult to read, because it is a carbon copy, but have included it anyway.
YES...I plan to breed Holly one more time. She is a born mother, who loves being bred (she is a total tart), loves being pregnant, loves being a mommy, bounces back from her pregnancies and produces lovely puppies. There are many different schools of thought about when to breed a dog, how often, back to back breedings.... I have not, do not and will not ever think it is okay to breed a bitch before she is two. I have not, do not and will not ever breed a bitch back to back heats. I do however feel if you breed a bitch after two years of age, and she enjoys it, and rebounds quickly after each litter, there is no reason why you cannot breed her until she is eight or nine years old. So, yes, I am breeding Holly again this coming August. That is my school of thought.
There have been questions about me collecting my stud boy Flynn and shipping his semen to Lucky Poodles for use on her girl Paris. This is true also. Flynn's testing has been completed, and I was approached about someone using him. After many conversations, and me voicing my opinion on the matter, it was agreed we would do this. A very big deal has been made about the fact that the female in question produced a puppy from her last litter who had a serious heart murmur. Both the sire and the dam of that litter have had subsequent heart testing, which has been posted on OFA. From what I gather, the two vets who did the testing feel this was a fluke, or the combination of the two dogs together that created this problem. I do not believe either of these dogs should be culled from anyone elses breeding program because of this incident. If the heart testing had not been done, then I agree, no further breeding should have been done. If pups are born out of this next litter who do have heart problems, then I agree, this female should be spayed. But I am confident that there won't be, because of the testing on the parents and because of the vets opinions of why this happened in the first place. If the testing holds no weight and is not important, why would any of us do it at all???
As far as using Flynn at sixteen months, I have never been a hypocrite and come on here or anywhere else and said I have an issue with younger males being used. I don't in some situations. Personally, I intend to only use males who are over two from this point forward and have had their final certification on their hips done. But if someone else wishes to, that is their choice, their opinion, and their school of thought. IF Flynn's testing had not been done, (hips, eyes, vWd, and NEWS) I would not have agreed to allow his semen to be collected. His hips are fair, and I questioned this, and many breeders have told me that this is not unusual in a younger dog, and that they usually improve, but even if they don't, fair is a pass. The female he has been bred to is a good rating, so we have bred up. Flynn is an intriguing boy to others because his pedigree is a little more diverse than the norm in North America, and one side has a lot of European dogs in it, so of course he has sparked a LOT of interest.
I will not apolgize for allowing him to be collected. This is my school of thought. I know others have differing opinions, and I respect those opinions. I know my adversaries will grasp at anything to try to discredit me and my breeding practices, because they have something to gain by trying to bring me down. I understand that too, because this is the nature of the beast. But, I do feel this needs to be brought out in the open, and if you have any questions, ask me. Please remember, I was raised in a Standard Poodle breeding home, and things were done differently when I grew up. Some of the things that were done, I agree with and take no issue with. Other things I do have an issue with. So, over the years I have developed my own ideas and my own way of doing things combining some of the old with some of the new. I am sure that over the next several years, my school of thought will evolve yet again. But not because I get bullied or harped at. But because someone who I respect explains their school of thought to me in detail, it is something I can see ther rationale behind, and slowly my thought process changes. Just like COI's. Some breeders feel a low COI is VERY important (me) while others feel it is not as important. We all have our own choices to make, our own methods of doing things, our own reasons for doing them. I do not take issue with most people doing things differently to me. I do however take big issue with people lying, or lying by omission about what THEY do, or being complete hypocrites, and coming on here saying one thing, but doing another. Do as I say, not as I do. I may do things now and in the future not everyone agrees with, but I will NOT lie about them or hide them.
****I just tried to post all of the testing for Holly and Flynn and am getting a message that each file exceeds the size limit for this Forum. If anyone can tell me what to do so I can post these, I would appreciate it. Or if anyone would like the, send me your email addy in a PM and I will be happy to forward them on to you. Thanks!!
You are kidding right ? you said the meanest thingd about me and my dogs And stated that you were so glad that you could finally get this off your ****ing chest ARE you ****ing kidding me...The PMs are flying Cherie ... You have committed suicide... You cant throw stones without someone asking questions. I am sorry for you I truly am ... Good luck explaining this breeding that you have just done .. What was it for? The betterment ? I am sorry ! i do not believe that so when they are born brace yourself everyone knows .... This will be the talk of the forum .. My Rockys bull**** will be nothing compared to this Back off bijou here comes arreau ! I am sorry but it is true they are all just waiting... i know cause they hav etold me .....Please do not threaten me okay ? Rocky md a total foo out of himself today but he truly has an issue with what he brought up we really do love our dogs and cannot imagine what you do ...We do not sell breeding rights and would not be interested in fostering at least not at this point .. So he had a right to say what he did how it got construed against you I have no ****ing clue .....
i received this private message last night. I have been getting tons of private messages asking me about a few things, which have been brought to some members attention by a certain party on here. I suppose it is always easiest to try and turn the attention to someone else rather than clean your own back yard.
First of all, contrary to what some of you are hearing through private messages, Holly's testing HAS been done. I sent copies out to some of you last night, but will post her results here so you can all see them. Holly's eyes will be CERFed again before her next/final breeding. I realize that the old CERF document is somewhat difficult to read, because it is a carbon copy, but have included it anyway.
YES...I plan to breed Holly one more time. She is a born mother, who loves being bred (she is a total tart), loves being pregnant, loves being a mommy, bounces back from her pregnancies and produces lovely puppies. There are many different schools of thought about when to breed a dog, how often, back to back breedings.... I have not, do not and will not ever think it is okay to breed a bitch before she is two. I have not, do not and will not ever breed a bitch back to back heats. I do however feel if you breed a bitch after two years of age, and she enjoys it, and rebounds quickly after each litter, there is no reason why you cannot breed her until she is eight or nine years old. So, yes, I am breeding Holly again this coming August. That is my school of thought.
There have been questions about me collecting my stud boy Flynn and shipping his semen to Lucky Poodles for use on her girl Paris. This is true also. Flynn's testing has been completed, and I was approached about someone using him. After many conversations, and me voicing my opinion on the matter, it was agreed we would do this. A very big deal has been made about the fact that the female in question produced a puppy from her last litter who had a serious heart murmur. Both the sire and the dam of that litter have had subsequent heart testing, which has been posted on OFA. From what I gather, the two vets who did the testing feel this was a fluke, or the combination of the two dogs together that created this problem. I do not believe either of these dogs should be culled from anyone elses breeding program because of this incident. If the heart testing had not been done, then I agree, no further breeding should have been done. If pups are born out of this next litter who do have heart problems, then I agree, this female should be spayed. But I am confident that there won't be, because of the testing on the parents and because of the vets opinions of why this happened in the first place. If the testing holds no weight and is not important, why would any of us do it at all???
As far as using Flynn at sixteen months, I have never been a hypocrite and come on here or anywhere else and said I have an issue with younger males being used. I don't in some situations. Personally, I intend to only use males who are over two from this point forward and have had their final certification on their hips done. But if someone else wishes to, that is their choice, their opinion, and their school of thought. IF Flynn's testing had not been done, (hips, eyes, vWd, and NEWS) I would not have agreed to allow his semen to be collected. His hips are fair, and I questioned this, and many breeders have told me that this is not unusual in a younger dog, and that they usually improve, but even if they don't, fair is a pass. The female he has been bred to is a good rating, so we have bred up. Flynn is an intriguing boy to others because his pedigree is a little more diverse than the norm in North America, and one side has a lot of European dogs in it, so of course he has sparked a LOT of interest.
I will not apolgize for allowing him to be collected. This is my school of thought. I know others have differing opinions, and I respect those opinions. I know my adversaries will grasp at anything to try to discredit me and my breeding practices, because they have something to gain by trying to bring me down. I understand that too, because this is the nature of the beast. But, I do feel this needs to be brought out in the open, and if you have any questions, ask me. Please remember, I was raised in a Standard Poodle breeding home, and things were done differently when I grew up. Some of the things that were done, I agree with and take no issue with. Other things I do have an issue with. So, over the years I have developed my own ideas and my own way of doing things combining some of the old with some of the new. I am sure that over the next several years, my school of thought will evolve yet again. But not because I get bullied or harped at. But because someone who I respect explains their school of thought to me in detail, it is something I can see ther rationale behind, and slowly my thought process changes. Just like COI's. Some breeders feel a low COI is VERY important (me) while others feel it is not as important. We all have our own choices to make, our own methods of doing things, our own reasons for doing them. I do not take issue with most people doing things differently to me. I do however take big issue with people lying, or lying by omission about what THEY do, or being complete hypocrites, and coming on here saying one thing, but doing another. Do as I say, not as I do. I may do things now and in the future not everyone agrees with, but I will NOT lie about them or hide them.
****I just tried to post all of the testing for Holly and Flynn and am getting a message that each file exceeds the size limit for this Forum. If anyone can tell me what to do so I can post these, I would appreciate it. Or if anyone would like the, send me your email addy in a PM and I will be happy to forward them on to you. Thanks!!