Wish I had some, I have been working on this as well. Maybe a push up ^ we might get some suggestions
cbrand, I agree wholeheartedly! They did post-mortem studies in Germany (after their natural lives) and found that those dogs trained with prongs suffered almost no neck trauma and those with buckle/slip almost always had some damage. I can't quote or refer, but I if pressed I might be able to find it.Heel and loose leash walking are two different things. ...
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the prong collar for teaching good leash skills no matter what method you use to teach it. The prong provides a strong but safe correction (you are not going to damage your dog like you can with a buckle or choke collar) and once a dog hits the end of the leash it usually thinks twice about doing it again.
I don't start the 8 week old puppies out on a prong. I leash break them with a regular buckle collar. However, as soon as we transition to real healing training, I use the prong.Wow I'm really shocked to hear so much support for a prong collar especially for dogs who aren't problem dogs but are just being taught for the first time.
For me, the recall is not something that my Poodles choose to do because they like me, but something that they are trained to do no matter what the distraction. For me this is major safety issue. If you are relying on your dog's good will to return to you, you may encounter a situation one day where something else is more interesting than you and your dog may not come back to you quickly enough.I agree with Bunni. My dog is my friend first and as such not to be coerced - at least not on first request. I use play, trust and a few treats with my dogs and they do just fine on the leash and for that matter off the leash. I can't see how threats and tugs could possibly make your dog interested in being with you or for that matter coming back to you when off leash.