[Mish17]

Why do breeders believe that because I am unable to travel long distances to get a dog, evn thiugh I am perfectly willing to facetime or skype, so that they can use the powers they believe they have to evaluate every expression and syllable, that I must either be unethical and want to breed a dog without rights, or that I’m michael vick?
i just do not see the connection, especially when I would be sending gamily members and would not be putting a dog on a plane alone. Whst get dme is the hypocrisy because one breeder told me that1-she had to repossess a dog from someone she had met in person amd 2-that she sold a dog to someone outside the country without ever meeting. I think I’m being discriminated against because I live with my parents. I fail to see what bearing that has on anything either!
To preempt what is inevitably coming, I did contact the breeders that were suggested. It’s like there’s a memo circumating among all the breeders-“don’t sell this person a dog, she’s a convicted animal abuser pretending to be someone else”

 

[MaizieFrosty]

I hate to say it, Mish, but most poodle breeders are lurking on PF. and have probably read your posts. You have come across as very difficult, if not impossible to please, as well as very negative over the past 3.5 YEARS. I think that's the issue--not the fact that you can't travel long distances and that you live at home.

 

[Mufar42]

Is this really a new post or is it an older one that just popped up on this new system?

 

[Eclipse]

Why do breeders believe that because I am unable to travel long distances to get a dog, evn thiugh I am perfectly willing to facetime or skype, so that they can use the powers they believe they have to evaluate every expression and syllable, that I must either be unethical and want to breed a dog without rights, or that I’m michael vick?
i just do not see the connection, especially when I would be sending gamily members and would not be putting a dog on a plane alone. Whst get dme is the hypocrisy because one breeder told me that1-she had to repossess a dog from someone she had met in person amd 2-that she sold a dog to someone outside the country without ever meeting. I think I’m being discriminated against because I live with my parents. I fail to see what bearing that has on anything either!
To preempt what is inevitably coming, I did contact the breeders that were suggested. It’s like there’s a memo circumating among all the breeders-“don’t sell this person a dog, she’s a convicted animal abuser pretending to be someone else”

Are we starting with this again? Do you do this to entertain yourself every so often so you can have the same dialogue with some new people.

I have no idea what, as I'm sure do none of the many other people that have responded to your numerous posts for years, but clearly there is something about you that is offputting to breeders you are talking to. There is no way SO many breeders are refusing to work with you unless they are picking up on something when they talk to you in more depth. Maybe they don't feel poodles are the breed for you....

 

[Dogs4Life]

Mish, sounds like it is time to finally move on then. Unfortunately, it sounds like you are not meant to get a poodle from a breeder if you have been trying for so many years.

Start looking for a poodle in a rescue (I believe I have said this before). But again, if you are overly negative toward rescue organizations, they also will not allow you to have a dog. In fact, there are some people who have posted negative reviews about the rescue where I got my dog, complaining that they weren't allowed to adopt a dog. The rescue responds to all of these complaints by stating the demands these potential adopters placed on the organization. In the end, the potential adopters look silly. People can't place demands on a rescue organization, just like they can't place demands on breeders.

If you don't want to adopt, try another breed. However, I think anyone here would suggest not speaking ill of breeders and continuing to complain about breeders online if you want to go this route.

 

[MaizieFrosty]

Mish, if I recall, you were going through the exact same thing with another breed of dog on a forum. So maybe a dog of any sort isn't in your future. Cat breeders are even more picky than dog breeders, so that's probably out. May I suggest a fish? I bought my two bettas on eBay and had them shipped to me no questions asked. They are actually really nice pets. Not quite the same as the poodles, but nice.

 

[Starvt]

The responses to the op made me curious, so I looked at a few older posts. Two statements that jumped out at me. That breeders are dishonest and untrustworthy, and starting a lawsuit because of perceived discrimination.
If I bred poodles, I wouldn't sell to the op based on those alone.

 

[Streetcar]

The responses to the op made me curious, so I looked at a few older posts. Two statements that jumped out at me. That breeders are dishonest and untrustworthy, and starting a lawsuit because of perceived discrimination.
If I bred poodles, I wouldn't sell to the op based on those alone.

Definitely some history there

 

[Dogs4Life]

Mish, if I recall, you were going through the exact same thing with another breed of dog on a forum. So maybe a dog of any sort isn't in your future. Cat breeders are even more picky than dog breeders, so that's probably out. May I suggest a fish? I bought my two bettas on eBay and had them shipped to me no questions asked. They are actually really nice pets. Not quite the same as the poodles, but nice.

Bettas are a good idea Birds are a nice idea, too.

 

[Skylar]

MaisieFrosty I had no idea you could buy a fish on eBay and have it shipped to you! Silly me I thought you had to buy them in a pet store.

 

[MaizieFrosty]

MaisieFrosty I had no idea you could buy a fish on eBay and have it shipped to you! Silly me I thought you had to buy them in a pet store.

Yeah, and they're MUCH better quality (bigger, better conformation) and healthier than pet store fish!

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[Starvt]

Who knew that fish conformation was a thing! ?

 

[MaizieFrosty]

Who knew that fish conformation was a thing! ?

I know, lol! They have fish shows too! It's really exactly like the dog world, but with fish.

 

[Skylar]

Who knew that fish conformation was a thing! ?

I do know people compete with their fish So it must be conformation. Seems weird to drag a fish in water around with you to attend a fish show. I guess many people probably think it’s weird taking your dog or cat to compete too. At least dogs and cats have some say in the matter because if they don’t want to be there they won’t cooperate and won’t win points or titles. etc.

 

[MaizieFrosty]

Skylar, it is kind of weird, but I think the fish get used to it.

Here's a photo of the conformation ideal for a halfmoon betta, just for an example.

 

[Skylar]

Your probably right that the fish get used to it.
I just finished reading an old Karen Pryor book on clicker training and she talks about clicker training some pet fish.

 

[Johanna]

At one time I would have pooh-poohed the idea of clicker training fish, but I used to have a big angel fish who clearly liked to interact with people. He liked to be petted!

 

[MaizieFrosty]

At one time I would have pooh-poohed the idea of clicker training fish, but I used to have a big angel fish who clearly liked to interact with people. He liked to be petted!

Oh my gosh, that is so cool! Fish are much cooler than people realize!

 

[PeggyTheParti]

I love the direction of this conversation! I had pet rats in my 20s and they were marvellous companions. My experience with those largely misunderstood animals definitely left me more open to appreciating the bonds we can create with all manner of creatures.

But clicker trained fish is a new one!

 

[MaizieFrosty]

Aww, ratties are awesome too! I would have a pair if I weren't allergic. I love to look at rat breeder sites, such as The Rat Throne, which is a rattery nearby. Do you have pics of your rats, Robin?