Head first!! Can i ask why the thread was closed when it was not nearly as heated as some previous threads? Do i dare point out the obvious?
As a moderator, if I see what I feel are personal attacks on this forum, I am able to take whatever action I feel is necessary. Keithsomething's comment to Harley chik was the precise reason I closed the thread and I've notified him of that via PM.
andArreau said:I also know that most of your original post on this thread was full of misinformation.
andArreau said:nearly everything mentioned in the first post is misinformation
Umm, wow. Everything!?? Really?? I'm looking, but I only see ONE thing was wrong with Jaks initial facts Arreau?? And that was that Jak throught Lucy & Toby had already had a litter of pups (the concern was that they were both under 2 years of age)Arreau said:Everything brought up about this breeder in this thread is misinformation.
Everything I posted was information gleaned from their own web site.
But if we all hold our cards close to our chest, and do not share information that is fact, how are any of the people who come on here looking for breeders and breeder information going to learn anything?
But I will not and have not posted something unless I got info from a breeders own web site, The Poodle Health Registry or Poodle Pedigree.
Jak could say the exact same things about his reasons and information when starting this thread? But there is a big problem with THIS one, simply because you have taken offence to it? I'm not even sure WHY you have taken offence to this thread!!???I KNOW I had no agenda or motive when posting the thread. I know it was the shock and awe of what I had just read on their site.
WTF? Seriously!!??? Where did Jak say he's in support of them!?? Please can you quote where he supported pendragon at all cos I must be missing it going over and over this thread to find it????? I did find him saying "You started the Pendragon thread, and I am sorry, but your motives were clear." but that doesn't seem to be in SUPPORT of pendragon?? But more of a personal comment to you, in reply to your personal comments to him (??)Arreau said:Are you implying that what THEY [Pendragon] do is ok? You are alright with seeing a nine year old dog bred, possibly back to back heats? (This is impossible to verify now with the changes to their web site) Or that it is ok to have three litters in eleven days? Or that it is ok to breed so many litters when they have six juvenile dogs to place?
For starters, no one said YOU MUST DO AS WE SAY. That's YOU who wants to fit into a 'circle', that perhaps you don't fit into, but it's NOT the fault of the 'circle' to have forced you into trying to meet their expectations!!! A 'nerdy' kid can't fault the 'popular' kids for making him try out for the football team or even for failing; that was his own doing, both the trying out and the failing. It doesn't make him any less right or wrong though, that's just life. Move on, have your own ideals and stick to them. Don't try and be what others want you to be; be what YOU want you to be!!? That's highschool stuff (trying to fit into the 'popular circles' cos they perceive it as being 'better' and don't have their own sense of self), and I'm afraid the only one I can condone doing that is the only highschool student here; Jak. Except it's the adults around him that are being so childish! lol.Arreau said:I am trying and have tried to follow the "circle's" recommendations on what a breeder should do TO THE LETTER
I'm not a novice in the area ((call me intermediate ^_^ )) Wishpoo ((arrogant maybe but one really shouldn't speak about things they're a novice at ))...I know the man from a class he spoke at and I've gotten close to him since having him teach me many things involving disorders in children and how they progress threw out the persons life (( = into adulthood))What happened to Keith - I can not even fathom : (( Why would somebody use such "low blows" out of the blue is just not understandable to me...Talking about "misdirected anger" ...just strange. It does not help to be arrogant in the area in which one is a complete novice by all means.[/COLOR]
I agree with you - why? Why wouldnt there have been a public warning - as so many others have gotten before by plumcrazy? I think thats unfair and I see a conflict of interest here - I like Cherie , lots - but this time it got out of hand and Jak was not there to even elaborate and it kept going........ I do see some that question her a lot - sometimes its fair, and sometimes its not. Just my opinion. hwell:
Keith...I think your apology would be more appropriately directed to Harley.[/QUOTE]I made my apologies to Barb for taking it "to the next level" and for her having to get involved but I guess I should apologize here as well
Sorry Barb for being "rude" and personal