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I have been trying to find the answer to this question on the internet, but haven't had any luck. I have a mini poodle who happens to be really small for a mini poodle (I can barely get him to stay above 8 lbs, sometimes dipping down below). I know that both of his parents were AKC registered mini poodles, but he doesn't meet the size requirement of a mini poodle. Does this technically make him a toy or is there more involved in the distinction between the two than just size? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I just have been wondering!
 

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Nope he is still a mini, I had two mini minis out of miniature parents. Both were 10" tall and were 10 lbs and 8 1/2 pounds
 

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Your pup has the genome of a mini, not a toy so he is a mini. Minis and toys can also go over size and by the same token a really small standard could finish under 15".
 

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Welcome to the forum. :)

How tall is he at the withers? Is he underweight?
I think he is just at the 10 inch mark but I will remeasure when I pick him up from daycare today! And for the second part, the vet said he was a little underweight when he was under 8 lbs but I don't think he will ever get to the weight of a "normal" mini and not be overweight.
 

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Your pup has the genome of a mini, not a toy so he is a mini. Minis and toys can also go over size and by the same token a really small standard could finish under 15".
Ok so there is a genetic component to the breed distinction too then?
 

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There are separate gene pools for the different varieties, although genetically they are all poodles.
 

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They're absolutely adorable!!! This is my little guy right before a needed grooming!
Thank you, the sweet duo is many years gone no, I have a new gang of poodles now
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Leonard, Pia and Beatrice.
Your pup is really cute, what's his name?
 

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I think he is just at the 10 inch mark but I will remeasure when I pick him up from daycare today! And for the second part, the vet said he was a little underweight when he was under 8 lbs but I don't think he will ever get to the weight of a "normal" mini and not be overweight.
Okay, good. :) Just wanted to make sure it wasn't a malnutrition issue. There've been a few cases like that discussed here.
 
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