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I found this on Facebook. I don’t know this breeder but I found her post very informative.

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I get asked about Merle often. I seen this and I’m sharing so others can be educated on this dangerous gene introduced to our poodles.

Let's talk Merle :

Cute until pups are born deaf and blind with cardiac and skeletal problems because of the Merle pattern. Added to the fact they can have the fatal MDR1 gene from Collies/Shepherds.

Sadly this Merle colour is creeping in everywhere and although it might look pretty it’s pretty deadly if breeders don’t know what they’re doing.
Some are passing off Poodles as being pure bred Merles now too.

It's NOT pure and never, ever was a pattern in Poodles. That means that the Merle gene HAD to be introduced into the Poodle via another breed of dog.
Why introduce a multitude of health issues to a breed like ours?!

Unethical greeders market merles as 100% Poodle, which DNA tests are confirming, as well as having them KC Registered in the past. Because no colour testing is required to register those breeders can click Black/White etc and get away with it. So for the new merle buyer shown the DNA test saying it's 100% Poodle and they are KC Registered the new owner believes them. What colour do their KC papers state? Chances are it'll be Black/White because the UK KC does not allow Merle to be registered.

DNA tests show as being 100% Poodle from about 5 generations but merle is NOT and NEVER has been a pure Poodle colour EVER, it's been introduced from another breed, usually an Australian Shepherd hence the health issues. 5 Generations prove nothing and all the greeders know it.

Merle's can carry MDR1 which is a genetic blood/brain barrier issue found in herding dogs, MDR1 Mutant dogs can be killed by ingesting Ivermectin, a common ingredient found in most animal de-wormers so that's also another reason they should be checked. Can you imagine selling a puppy only for it to die because of MDR1. It annoys me that breeders can and do lie especially when it's something that can be fatal.

The other thing to REALLY consider with Poodles and their natural colouring....Cryptic (Hidden) Merles. Basically Poodles come in Creams and Apricots so 'if' a pale merle was born you might not notice it was actually merle, you might think Cream. If that was bred to another merle (Double merle or Lethal white) you then have deaf and blind pups. It also doesn't necessarily hide in Creams, there could be a tiny white spot that looks white on a Black but could in fact also be a Merle. That's another reason why it's just so dangerous to be brought into our breed where it wasn't there in the first place.

So what if the original Merle breeder does the tests can they guarantee a buyer will, if they breed, maybe accidently, with another merle? So they, the original breeder, have introduced a colour that can, in the future if bred by someone with no knowledge, cause deaf and blind pups. Imagine doing that to your dog's progeny because that's exactly what they are doing! Imagine allowing for deaf and blind pups all because of a new trend and money?!

Why should you care, if you are just buying a pretty pup, with no intention of breeding?

By buying this pattern puppy it's a similar sentiment to buying a puppy farm puppy, you might get lucky and have a lovely pup (even though it is not a purebred Poodle), but you have supported someone that is breeding purely for profit, that has no interest in breed preservation or bettering the breed.
Thankfully the UK Kennel Club have recently banned registration of Merles and any breeder found to have lied will lose their KC Affix and pups, including past litters, will be de-registered.

Don't fall for this new fad, don't encourage it by buying one and educate others about this dangerous pattern in Poodles, let's not allow our beautiful breed, already with a multitude of amazing true colours, to be bastardised with merle like so many others have happened to.

https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/…/registration-of-dogs-of…/

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I found this on Facebook. I don’t know this breeder but I found her post very informative.

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I get asked about Merle often. I seen this and I’m sharing so others can be educated on this dangerous gene introduced to our poodles.

Let's talk Merle :

Cute until pups are born deaf and blind with cardiac and skeletal problems because of the Merle pattern. Added to the fact they can have the fatal MDR1 gene from Collies/Shepherds.

Sadly this Merle colour is creeping in everywhere and although it might look pretty it’s pretty deadly if breeders don’t know what they’re doing.
Some are passing off Poodles as being pure bred Merles now too.

It's NOT pure and never, ever was a pattern in Poodles. That means that the Merle gene HAD to be introduced into the Poodle via another breed of dog.
Why introduce a multitude of health issues to a breed like ours?!

Unethical greeders market merles as 100% Poodle, which DNA tests are confirming, as well as having them KC Registered in the past. Because no colour testing is required to register those breeders can click Black/White etc and get away with it. So for the new merle buyer shown the DNA test saying it's 100% Poodle and they are KC Registered the new owner believes them. What colour do their KC papers state? Chances are it'll be Black/White because the UK KC does not allow Merle to be registered.

DNA tests show as being 100% Poodle from about 5 generations but merle is NOT and NEVER has been a pure Poodle colour EVER, it's been introduced from another breed, usually an Australian Shepherd hence the health issues. 5 Generations prove nothing and all the greeders know it.

Merle's can carry MDR1 which is a genetic blood/brain barrier issue found in herding dogs, MDR1 Mutant dogs can be killed by ingesting Ivermectin, a common ingredient found in most animal de-wormers so that's also another reason they should be checked. Can you imagine selling a puppy only for it to die because of MDR1. It annoys me that breeders can and do lie especially when it's something that can be fatal.

The other thing to REALLY consider with Poodles and their natural colouring....Cryptic (Hidden) Merles. Basically Poodles come in Creams and Apricots so 'if' a pale merle was born you might not notice it was actually merle, you might think Cream. If that was bred to another merle (Double merle or Lethal white) you then have deaf and blind pups. It also doesn't necessarily hide in Creams, there could be a tiny white spot that looks white on a Black but could in fact also be a Merle. That's another reason why it's just so dangerous to be brought into our breed where it wasn't there in the first place.

So what if the original Merle breeder does the tests can they guarantee a buyer will, if they breed, maybe accidently, with another merle? So they, the original breeder, have introduced a colour that can, in the future if bred by someone with no knowledge, cause deaf and blind pups. Imagine doing that to your dog's progeny because that's exactly what they are doing! Imagine allowing for deaf and blind pups all because of a new trend and money?!

Why should you care, if you are just buying a pretty pup, with no intention of breeding?

By buying this pattern puppy it's a similar sentiment to buying a puppy farm puppy, you might get lucky and have a lovely pup (even though it is not a purebred Poodle), but you have supported someone that is breeding purely for profit, that has no interest in breed preservation or bettering the breed.
Thankfully the UK Kennel Club have recently banned registration of Merles and any breeder found to have lied will lose their KC Affix and pups, including past litters, will be de-registered.

Don't fall for this new fad, don't encourage it by buying one and educate others about this dangerous pattern in Poodles, let's not allow our beautiful breed, already with a multitude of amazing true colours, to be bastardised with merle like so many others have happened to.

https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/…/registration-of-dogs-of…/

Hessler’s Standard Poodles
Does anybody have experience with Hessler,s Standard Poodles? Sounds like a thoughtful breeder

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Great post! I would like to add something else that I'm aware of from the border collie breed in which merle is a naturally occuring color.

The ee coloration gene is a component gene responsible for red, apricot, and cream colored dogs in poodles. The ee gene masks merle coloration. Because of this, you can have a dog with a copy of the merle gene that is visually a non-merle dog. The dog may or may not have blue eyes but when it does, you know for sure it has a masked merle gene. Sometimes these dogs have slight indications of merle color when born, but it always fades to adults that lack merle pattern. The original post makes it sound like this probably only happens in pale dogs but it's not limited to pale dogs. It happens in normal dark reds as well.

Why is this a big deal? Because even if you have an educated person who knows that merle-merle breedings cause deaf/blind dogs, they will not think their ee red dog is merle because it doesn't look merle. So then they breed it with a merle dog or another masked merle dog and surprise! Severely compromised puppies with deaf/blind impairments.

I have SEEN this with my own eyes. Recently somebody posted a photo of their soon-to-be puppy on one of the facebook groups. It was an apricot tuxedo marked puppy with striking blue eyes. 75% of the comments were from uneducated people talking about how beautiful those eyes were. And the other 25% were from educated breeders and owners trying very hard to explain why this was clearly evidence of a very poor breeder because the puppy had a merle gene masked by the ee locus.

See link below for good examples of ee red merle corgis that appear completely non merle

Here's more for Australian shepherds which don't typically come in ee red but it can happen.

If you have a breed of dog with a lot of ee red colored dogs, introducing merle is a terrible idea. It's a gene that requires very responsible breeding. When you look at Australian shepherd rescues, you will see so many double merle blind/deaf dogs in them. Because aussies are a very trendy breed and there are so many backyard breeders that don't know to not breed merles together. Or they have cryptic merles and aren't doing the genetic testing to know they're cryptic. We really don't want to see this same situation in poodles.

This article has more great info on this problem with the ee red coloration and its masking ability:
 

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Raindrops - that's scary, especially considering how many breeders I see who do multiple "unusual" colours, like red, apricot, parti, sable, etc. I think most of us know about breeding double merles, but I had never heard of hidden merles! Also scary if they can be hidden through multiple generations. I really hope CKC, AKC, and UKC take similar measures to the UK kennel club and deregister merles and (potentially ) ban breeders found to be deliberately breeding them in non Merle breeds.

 

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Raindrops - that's scary, especially considering how many breeders I see who do multiple "unusual" colours, like red, apricot, parti, sable, etc. I think most of us know about breeding double merles, but I had never heard of hidden merles! Also scary if they can be hidden through multiple generations. I really hope CKC, AKC, and UKC take similar measures to the UK kennel club and deregister merles and (potentially ) ban breeders found to be deliberately breeding them in non Merle breeds.

They sort of already ban it. Because you cannot register a poodle as "merle." But what you can do is register it as black and white. I do not know how they can prevent this false registration.

Hidden merle is a pretty tough issue for breeds that have both ee red and merle. But it would be super bad for poodles because of how trendy those colors are and how most are poorly bred.
 

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This is scary. But thank you for sharing it Dechi as it is important information. This is why I prefer my poodles in one color only, black with beautiful dark brown eyes.
 
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They sort of already ban it. Because you cannot register a poodle as "merle." But what you can do is register it as black and white. I do not know how they can prevent this false registration.
Many European clubs demand a DNA test from the puppies to confirm that the registered mother and father are correct before confirming the pedigree. I find it very difficult to believe that it would be easy to get away with registering a Merle Poodle. The clubs dont just take the breeders word for what they are registering, they check, it was a bit of a problem during the shutdown actually. Doesnt the US do the same?
 
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