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jessie has been acting out of sorts. first problem was on wednesday, during our "play training" time she vomited up her dinner. she's always had a sensitive stomach, but usually it's vomit, back to being ok. well she wasn't; she got very lethargic. i was very nervous all night, next morning she looked like crape, my husband brought her to the vet, she was dehydrated, besides a lot of sneezing, he found her ok. so she got a shot of pepcid, i/d for a couple of days and sent home. i got home from work and she jumped with excitement to see me. thursday, my husband left for vacation. she was eating good, no vomiting, so diarrhea, then on friday, started to whimper like crazy, sneezing like crazy, almost sounding like she was choking, then it would pass and she would be fine. she was eating very well. HOWEVER, she had to accidents in the house of urinating once @ 2:30 in the morning, the next morning @ 3:30. and i mean urinating, like she hadn't gone for 12 hours. i called the vet, brought her in yesterday. she was shaking uncontrollably, kept her practically in my lap while we were there. he found her to be ok: no fever, no dehyration, nothing. he said could all be whatever was still in her system. he's not very aggressive and doesn't like to jump to conclusions, but me, having had worked in a vet for 7 years, asked for a complete blood workup. i asked about diabetes. he said highly unlikely. i had collected a little urine, gave that to them, also. waiting for a call today with the results. meanwhile, we left the office, i even took her to the dog run, she was great, had a ball. we stayed for 20 minutes. came home, she ate, no problems, however, this whining is starting to drive me crazy. today she is acting weird. lots of whimpering, scratching @ the tile floor, the wood floor, not interested in heating. took her for 2 walks already today, first time she pooped & peed, then wanted to come in. second time she did both again, and wanted to walk a bit. she's only 16 months old and i am scared she has some disease - diabetes, addisons. i guess i know no one can help me until i hear from her dr, so maybe i just needed to vent.
 

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Have you taken any x-rays? Maybe the problem is localized are you sure nothing is stuck in the esophagus or nasal passages, like a pin? Just a quick thought.
 

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Can you take her to Oradell Animal Hosp. in Paramus? They're a 24/7 facility, but it's not hard to get an appointment there. They have loads of specialists and those doctors didn't stop looking to find the cause of my cat's illness. It cost me a lot of money, but it was so worth it. I would do it all over again if I had to.
 

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Poor girl! Im glad you had labwork and a urinalysis done. Those should deffinatly be ruled out. Is she panting, drooling, or licking alot? I think the whining and scratching are because she obviously doesnt feel good and doesnt know what to do about it.
If all the tests come back normal and she is still not doing well then i deffinatly would rule out addisons. Good luck and i hope she starts feeling better soon!
 

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Poor Jesse, and you. Honestly I would be upset too........

Once the results come back you may want to look into another vet JMO - we know our dogs, it sounds like something is bothering him and he is expressing that. The fact that you had to request the labs just makes me concerned maybe a second opinon might be needed.

Good luck and keep us posted.
 

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I have to say that i agree with Olie. Im sure your vet is very nice, but i personally like a more proactive vet. He didnt even give her fluids there under the skin if he found her to be dehydrated? :eek:hwell:
 

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first i am sorry - i meant to write that she WAS NOT dehydrated so no fluids were needed. the vet called me this morning - all labs were normal. liver enzymes were not off, kidneys were fine, so sign of diabetes. all was good. urine anaylsis was normal, also. he is suspicious it may all be behavioral. i took her to the dog run later today and she was fine: running, playing, we practiced recall and she passed with flying colors. came home and the scratchng around and whimpering started. i decided to spray bitter apple where she was scratching and ignore her whimpering. she finally settled in and slept for a couple of hours. the whimpering started again, so i just gave her one of her raw bones to chew on and she has been better the last couple of hours. she had no interest in eating today except her Natural Balance and cheese that i used for treats when we did our training. those she gobbled up.

i'm glad that it seems not to be anything serious - my vet said he will check with me on wednesday to see how she is doing. of course, if i need him before i will bring her.

thank you to EVERYONE for your concerns and your ideas and your suggestions. if i need more resources i will take your advice and look for a specialist. thank you again. so glad to be part of such a great support team.
 

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It's so hard not to assume the worst when it comes to our babies. Glad it doesn't appear to be anything serious.
 

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The only way to test for Addison's is a ACTH stimulation test. When Liberty was diagnosed, her bloodwork came back normal too. There are 2 types of Addison's, and my vet was only looking for one kind. I had to beg for the ACTH test, and by the time he finally agreed, she was really sick. It came back positive, and I found a new vet. I would seriously look for someone who won't quit until they find it. You know your dog and I'd look for a vet who trusts your judgement.

Another thought. . . you don't have any of those ultrasonic mouse sound things in your house do you? Thought maybe the sound was bothering her. Cosita sometimes get whiny and scratchy (she loves to scratch the sliding glass door but doesn't want to go through.) It's usually because she wants to go exercise. It's not connected to loose stools and declined appetite and shaking though!

Regardless, I hope you find the answer quickly. There's nothing worse than not knowing. Our minds are just way too creative.
 

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Personally, i dont think acute behavior changes should be ignored in adult (or any) dogs. She is probably feeling off for a reason. I hope she starts to feel better soon. If she is still continuing to not be her normal self then i would absolutely go further in tests (FYI, the hallmark of addisons disease are periods of just not acting right while most of the time they are fine, unless they crash and are Super sick).
 

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My older dog, Keelyn the Border Collie has developed a heart murmur. I first noticed her panting, pacing and wimpering but still eating well, running and playing. I took her in to the vet and she found the murmur. My vet said those symptoms were very usual for the condition since Keelyn would be feeling very anxious. She's now on meds and feeling better. Maybe you should rule this out.

Hope you get an answer soon
 

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My older dog, Keelyn the Border Collie has developed a heart murmur. I first noticed her panting, pacing and wimpering but still eating well, running and playing. I took her in to the vet and she found the murmur. My vet said those symptoms were very usual for the condition since Keelyn would be feeling very anxious. She's now on meds and feeling better. Maybe you should rule this out.

Hope you get an answer soon
thank you for this insight. the interesting thing is she whimpers in her sleep and last night was no different. in the past i could usually calm her down - last night we were up from 3 to 3:30. i wondered to myself "do dogs get anxiety attacks????". now you are describing something that sounds like it could be an anxiety attack - maybe caused by a heart murmur. they never found a evidence of a murmur before - was keelyn's found through a routine exam? also, this just got this bad (before, once in a while she would have what i thought was bad dream, whimper, then go back to sleep) since last thursday or friday.
 

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I noticed Keelyn starting to act different than normal for her. I waited a couple of weeks to see if it continued then I took her in because of this behaviour. I'm friends with my vet so it's easy for me to talk to her and she knows I don't overreact. I just described the behaviour and Debbie did lots of blood work and a thorough physical. She said she could hear the murmur and described the levels of murmur and said there are even some very light ones that are hard to hear. She did an xray immediately and we waited for the results at home. Debbie's vet tech phoned later that day and said the xray confirmed what Debbie heard. Medicine was in stock so I went right in and got it. My vet has seen her again after a month on the meds to see if they were helping. She did say we wouldn't see an improvement in the murmur but her blood pressure would improve so the symptoms would improve and they did. The meds are expensive but worth it for her comfort and my peace of mind.
 

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I noticed Keelyn starting to act different than normal for her. I waited a couple of weeks to see if it continued then I took her in because of this behaviour. I'm friends with my vet so it's easy for me to talk to her and she knows I don't overreact. I just described the behaviour and Debbie did lots of blood work and a thorough physical. She said she could hear the murmur and described the levels of murmur and said there are even some very light ones that are hard to hear. She did an xray immediately and we waited for the results at home. Debbie's vet tech phoned later that day and said the xray confirmed what Debbie heard. Medicine was in stock so I went right in and got it. My vet has seen her again after a month on the meds to see if they were helping. She did say we wouldn't see an improvement in the murmur but her blood pressure would improve so the symptoms would improve and they did. The meds are expensive but worth it for her comfort and my peace of mind.
what would you say were the behavior changes that you noticed?
 

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I would say less sleeping quietly. She'd get up more often and move around, come find me, go get a drink of water, lay down, move again, sometimes pacing and wining even in the night. But still go out and start the playing with Ginger, they rough house a lot outside and she start it most of the time. The other thing - inside they also played what I call mouth games and that stopped, it has restarted now.
I will also say th blood work was to rule out Addison's, Cushings and Diabetes etc.
 

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I would say less sleeping quietly. She'd get up more often and move around, come find me, go get a drink of water, lay down, move again, sometimes pacing and wining even in the night. But still go out and start the playing with Ginger, they rough house a lot outside and she start it most of the time. The other thing - inside they also played what I call mouth games and that stopped, it has restarted now.
I will also say th blood work was to rule out Addison's, Cushings and Diabetes etc.
oh my goodness - that's jessie. thank you - need to get her back to the vet today if i can. i can't tell you how scared and anxious i am.
 
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