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Hi! I'm new here. The last dog that I had was a spoo and she lived a long life with our family and was very loved. I'm hoping to get a new spoo puppy soon. The litter is not yet born, but the dogs have been bred. I have information on the dame and sire and would like to look up COI and Wycliffe. How do I go about this?
 

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Sorry to hear about the loss of your former spoo. Hopefully others will chime in. In the past I've used Poodle Health Registry. Registration is required, then you can search the dam and sire. I forget if it has a COI calculator, but I believe it will run the predicted COI (5 and 10 generation) if/when you add your dog.

COI and Wycliffe are useful but becoming outdated. More cutting edge breeders are working with VGL at UC-Davis, utilizing more sophisticated tools to measure inbreeding and rarity to conserve genes. The project is called BetterBred. If your breeder is signed on, s/he should have better info to share about the litter.
 

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I've tried to create an account on the Poodle Health Registry since around the time I started the Breeder List Project a few months ago. There doesn't seem to be anyone home. I've never received a response that my account would be created.
"Your registration information has been emailed to the site manager. If your information is complete, you will receive an email when the account is ready for use. If you have not received an email within 48 hours contact [email protected]."

I just tried again and will update if I should get a response. I'd also tried the [email protected] route before w/o success.
This link sort of works but is broken out by disease or condition and doesn't offer a large response.

I also just attempted to register again on the toy/mini database
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the standard poodle database

I'll update if I get any response from any of the three.
 

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I have had the same problem in trying to register with the Poodle Health Registry a month ago. I tried again yesterday and discovered an error that I may have made. I'll know in a couple of days if I solved the problem.
I have also understood that the PHR is maintained by volunteers on their personal computers, and I can understand if something has happened to their ability to do so. Especially in these troubled times.
 

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Rose - is PHR dead? Where has everyone migrated to?
 

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I have not heard back from PHR. Was it a separate process to get access to the Standard Poodle Data Base or did you (Rose N Poos) just do the overall PHR and received the one response for the Standard Poodles?
 

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Rose - is PHR dead? Where has everyone migrated to?
I don't know what's happened. I'd always assumed it was open to the public, registering for a log in notwithstanding, but when I finally tried, absolutely no response. I'm sending one last email to a contact listed but I don't have hope.

The only link to PHR that works even a bit is the one above where you choose by variety then condition and get very limited data. PHR Start Here to View Registered Poodles!
The mini and toy database uses the same reg form with only crickets there also so far as registering is concerned.

Poodle Pedigree Database has become a closed FB group which one must join but it appears that it's not particularly active, so I haven't tried that.


I have not heard back from PHR. Was it a separate process to get access to the Standard Poodle Data Base or did you (Rose N Poos) just do the overall PHR and received the one response for the Standard Poodles?
The Standard Poodle Database seems to be a separate entity, but at least someone or something is alive there. Use the link to get to that database and register. Standard Poodle Database

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Probably unrelated but any website link to Poodles De Grenier has become "not found" since the 29th of June 2020, probably earlier than that but that's the date I marked as no longer working. This was the website of a breeder who was working very seriously with poodle genetic diversity and a lot of excellent information is just not there anymore. There is no there, there.

The Standard Poodle Project is another site that seems to be abandoned, The Poodle History Project, same. Many valuable resources just seem to be stalled or forgotten.


I think our best bet is to contact one of our breeder members to see if they have some info they can share with the rest of us.
 

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Wow. That's a lot of data floating around out there in cyberspace. Would be sad to lose it. Maybe someone very technologically inclined could rescue it.
 

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Checked again tonight after seeing an old link and found some new notes on the site:





Welcome to the Poodle Health Registry Database
an International Database of Poodle Health and Pedigrees!

Poodle Health Registry Login



Account:
Password:


This is a Legacy Database
This database has not been updated since early 2018.
New accounts have not been added since early 2020.


Questions

The answers to frequently asked questions can be found here.
In English: here
In German: here

Thanks
The volunteers for Poodle Health Registry wish to thank the many owners around the world who registered their dogs.

For Standard Poodles, the online SPD is available here
 

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Checked again tonight after seeing an old link and found some new notes on the site:
This is a Legacy Database
This database has not been updated since early 2018.
New accounts have not been added since early 2020...
That's very helpful, Rose. I was thinking as I read this how volunteers move on and projects collapse when new volunteers don't take their place. Another issue in any 'free' services like this, there is a cost to maintaining the website with concerns of who will cover this in absence of donations. It would be unfortunate to lose all this data.

Under the drop down menu, About PHR > PHR Board of Directors
are the names of seven board members:
  • Susan Giordano
  • Roger Brucker
  • Kathryn Foran
  • Molly Windebank
  • Lynn Brucker
  • Nancy Clifton
  • Arthur Foran
At least some of them are easy to find by googling their names with the word 'poodle' after it.

It's plausible that if any or several of you want to reach out, and let them know you're a longstanding member of Poodle Forum, and would like to volunteer in updating the backlog of New Accounts, that they may respond and/or be open to this.
 

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Once upon a time I looked Tonka up in PHR to find that someone had labeled him 'Addisonian'. My request for a change was accommodated imediately. I suspect that pettiness in the Poodle world has their crew a bit jaded.
 

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Cb, I found your boy listed on SPD but I'm not fluent in pedigree. Don't know if this link will work for you, or maybe you have already seen this
Wow! Thanks R&P. :)
I've never seen his lines in SPD.
It's been a long time since I looked at his parentage so I don't recognize names immediately.
Gonna have to do some puzzling out myself.
 

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Hi! I have my new spoo now! I made reference to that I was getting one in my discussion starter (#1). She's 10 weeks old and is keeping me very busy! It really is like having a new baby. I'll post pics when she allows me the time to do it :) I'll enjoy looking into the data bases (also when little pup allows me to).
 
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