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Hi I have 2 dogs and I was just wondering How do you know you have a flea problem? How do you know if your dogs have fleas?

I had my poodle at the groomer yesterday and she said she found signs of flea dirt on him. And asked if we had been using any frontline.

We don't use flea/tick preventative on him or our other dog, but especially him because he has such bad reactions to the stuff. And I don't feel comfortable putting those chemicals on my dogs month after month. I have never used flea/tick preventative (other than on him) on any dog I've had in the past and I have never had a flea/tick problem.

Now she didn't find any fleas or anything like that. We have 2 dogs one that goes to a groomer ever 12 weeks or so and one that never goes to a groomer, she is more of a self maintaining dog (terrier mix). The dogs are bathed weekly.


But we do live in an apartment and there are other dogs in the general vicinity. Is it possible my dog had been somewhere in an area where there had been fleas but didn't catch fleas? (from what I understand Its too cold now for fleas here)
How would I know if my dog has fleas?

What are the sure signs you have a flea problem?

(You would think we would be getting bit up if we had a problem)

Thanks

Should I go ahead and bathe both my dogs in a flea shampoo just as a precaution and what is the best.
 

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Also if your dog has fleas does that mean you have fleas in your home? And how would you know? And how would you get rid of them?
 

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I think you would notice if your indoor dogs had fleas, JMO. You're bathing them every week so you'd see them in the bath. The "flea dirt" could've been something else, maybe. What color is your dog and do you brush frequently? I don't see how anyone could miss a single flea on a white dog. (I certainly know if my Maltese has a single one.) Are your dogs itchy? I would get a flea comb and check myself, if I were you. If they have them there are several products you can use, including all natural products. (I don't like topical either and it bugs me the way the are pushed.) Does your groomer sell frontline?
 

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My dogs are itchy but they suffer from dry skin. Which is what happens when you bathe them as often as we do. Our poodle actually gets bathed sometimes almost daily due to pooping in his crate every time we leave the house and laying in it.

Yes our groomer is at the vet and they sell frontline and advantage.

My poodle is white and my Terrier is yellow she has a double coat. Now we don't brush them often. Maybe once every 2 weeks. But in the last month not nearly that much even, our terrier really doesn't need it and her fur broke our brush and we just haven't replaced. Money is extremely tight.

but with a baby coming we don't want to risk fleas in the house

I need to find a good brand of flea shampoo to use just incase, I want to get rid of any possible fleas.


My poodle sleeps with me and I don't have any bites or anything on me even. My terrier is always in my lap. Wouldn't we be itchy too if we had a flea problem. I have never seen anything crawling on them
 

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I would imagine it could be other species of blood suckers that live at home. Bed bugs could be a culprit, they leave what looks like flea dirt on the prey and are so small you can not see them, you litterally need a dog to come in and sniff them out as only the adults are visible to the average naked eye.

Bed bugs dont stay on their prey either, they eat their fill and then recede back in their hiding place.

Kissing bugs are another possible culprit.. but they are pretty big so I think you would know if you had them.

You could probably have fleas in your home but if she didnt find any fleas or nits maybe its something else or maybe its not flea dirt at all just some other particulate that appears to be flea dirt?

You should wash your dogs bed, flip your matris, wash all your sheets and linins. Just to be safe you don't have something living in your house feeding on your dog
 

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Isnt' true that flea dirt turns red when wet so wouldn't we have noticed it when bathing them? Could it have just been regular dirt


ADD: we can't flip our mattess, its a pillow top. But again if there were bugs in the house, wouldn't we be bit up too?
 

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you could, you might not be though. Bed bugs only live 15 ft from their prey. So they could only be in a part of the house close to your dog.

It might be something else just throwing options out there
 

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Well our poodle sleeps with us and our terrier sleeps in the closet where all our clothes are. We vacuum twice a week and wash our bedding and theirs once a week. But she said she found flea dirt and I don't want to bring my baby into a house with fleas. But we really can't afford preventative at the moment and the apartment doesn't treat units for fleas usually. And doesn't want us doing it ourselves.
 

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Just bathe your dogs often and go through their fur often with a flea comb. If you have fleas I'm sure you will find one. If you wanna see if some nocturnal entity is seeking out your pooch you can stay up one night with a blacklight or a big flashlight and see if you see little specks going to your dog.

It could be something else though maybe the skin is getting dry and blood is surfacing? Try a pH balanced shampoo or something. But If your dogs skin was dry I think you would notice.

It could be a not blood based object aswell. Where does your dog play? he could just be getting dirt in his fur. You could always take your dog to the vet and have him look at him
 

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My dog plays in my grandparents yard. The have a bichon. he was there the day before grooming just rolling around in the grass. He was a filthy little guy but I didn't bathe him because he was going to the groomer the next day. His groomer is at the vets office.

Our poodle has suffered with dry skin his whole life, and the fact he ends up being bathed so much is part of the problem with that. (But he poops in his crate and lays in it every couple of days when we live him, he is only alone maybe 2 hours a day tops) And I'm not going to have a dog covered in poop walking around

How much is a flea comb? And would a flea be obvious? (I've never seen one on a dog)
 

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Uhh like $10 at petsmart. It would be a lil white or tan speck that moves around.. erm well.. If it moves it probably doesnt belong on your dog so you have a problem.

poops and lays in it.. maybe you should get a much bigger crate and get one of those potty mats to put in there..
 

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As a precaution we are going to get some flea shampoo and bathe them in that just incase, my husband wants to know what kind to pick up

Any suggestions on a good brand. I know dawn soap has been suggested to me but I would rather get something made specifically to get rid of fleas on dogs.

Looking for something safe but affordable
 

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Uhh like $10 at petsmart. It would be a lil white or tan speck that moves around.. erm well.. If it moves it probably doesnt belong on your dog so you have a problem.

poops and lays in it.. maybe you should get a much bigger crate and get one of those potty mats to put in there..

We just moved him to my terriers crate, she isn't crated anymore. And he pooped in there and just played in it. and smeared it all over. The crate he was in was the proper size but we thought maybe we just move him up to the bigger crate. Problem is he is a very nervous dog and freaks out when we leave, and the vet says basically what happens is he just losing control there and expresses whats in there. There isn't really much that can be done about that. I know of 3 other poodles that are the same way. He doesn't do it on days we sedate him. (he is a very nervous dog with severe separation anxiety to the point that we have to use sedation at times)
 

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._. Don't they make meds for sedating dogs that crap them selves? Or maybe do some separation anxiety therapy like leave a room for a min and then come back in and show him that you always come back and keep increasing the time incrament alone?
 

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._. Don't they make meds for sedating dogs that crap them selves? Or maybe do some separation anxiety therapy like leave a room for a min and then come back in and show him that you always come back and keep increasing the time incrament alone?
yeah he is on meds. but we don't give them everyday because the poor guy sleeps constantly on them. The vet has him on them as needed. And trust me we have worked with trainers and behaviorists and everything. The dog has a lot of problems, health and otherwise

But if anyone could answer my actual question about Good Flea Shampoos that would be fantastic. This isn't about him pooping. This is about finding a good flea shampoo
 

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As a precaution we are going to get some flea shampoo and bathe them in that just incase, my husband wants to know what kind to pick up

Any suggestions on a good brand. I know dawn soap has been suggested to me but I would rather get something made specifically to get rid of fleas on dogs.

Looking for something safe but affordable
Just wanted to clarify this is what I am trying to find out
 

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I think the flea is obvious and they spread relatively quick. They jump and your dog would let you know it. If he's itching check the spot to see. If you spend that my time bathing you would have seen it. You may need to cut down on the bathing to once a week or every 10 days. And go to walmart and buy a brush so you can brush him daily or every couple of days. Also because money is tight walmart does sell the cheaper flea treatment (Hartz I think)and powders pretty cheap under $5.00 - $10.00. That IF you even need it. BUT if you have your dog around others and outside and your in a warmer climate it might be best to use something (powder, walmart brand) If your not in a warmer climate the fleas I would think would not be an issue unless there was a major infestation.
 

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Also I heard DAWN dish liquid baths will get the fleas off the dog, NOT the carpets.
 
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