house broken...NOT

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sloane

Discussion Starter · Sep 8, 2009

not sure if this is normal, but murphy, who is 4 mo old, I thought was housebroken. Then over the last few days he has decided that he rather not go outside but inside.

I have caught him a few times and said "no" then brought him outside. He then doesnt go and I am out there with him for a while by keep telling him to 'go potty'

When I was a kid, we would put his nose in it (not all the way of course) and say 'no' then bring him outside, but i guess you cant do that anymore.

any ideas?

he also doesnt like the crate anymore. Should I put him back in the crate.

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T o d d

· #2 · Sep 8, 2009

If he goes inside just grab him and drag him outside and say your command to go. Keep doing this over and over he`ll get it eventually... he's probably trying to establish who's boss.

Same with the crate, and anything else for that matter.. make sure you are consistent and DO NTO give in.

Rubbing his face in it won't teach him anything other than when he goes to the bathroom he is in trouble which may be why he won't go again with you near him outside???

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Shereen

· #3 · Sep 8, 2009

T o d d said:
Rubbing his face in it won't teach him anything other than when he goes to the bathroom he is in trouble which may be why he won't go again with you near him outside???

I agree with Todd, a simple stern NO, and put him outside is all you should do, shouting etc will just make him anxious. Jake has started to do this, its frustrating but you just have to be consistent with them. Good luck

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FUZBUTZ

· #4 · Sep 9, 2009

I agree with Todd and Shereen. " CONSISTENCY "

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bigpoodleperson

· #5 · Sep 9, 2009

Peeing or having a BM in the house? If he was doing well on the housebreaking for peeing and has regressed then i would have a urine sample checked.
He is probably just having too much freedom too soon. We think they are housebroken and give then free rein.
I do however Disagree that everything dogs do is to try and be dominant over us. He is a baby! He isnt trying to be the boss. He just needs more supervision and guidelines.

Also, about the crate. Was he very comfortable with it before or just so-so? What is he doing now that you say he doesnt like it?

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sloane

Discussion Starter · #6 · Sep 9, 2009

He is probably just having too much freedom too soon. We think they are housebroken and give then free rein.

i think this could be the problem. He was doing well we let him out of his pen and out of his room (due to constant whinning).

I was thinking that maybe we let him run loose too soon. Just didnt know that going to the bathroom was a sign.

as for the crate.

we decided that he needs to be in his crate again (constant whinning) and instead of being in his pen in the crate, he would sleep with one of the boys but in his crate.

He did pretty well last night.

I took him out this morning, did number 1, waited and waited, then brought him in then within a few minutes, he found the newspaper and did number 2.

said 'no' then brought him out and he just sniffed around but the 'damage' had already been done.

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Locket

· #7 · Sep 9, 2009

sloane said:
I took him out this morning, did number 1, waited and waited, then brought him in then within a few minutes, he found the newspaper and did number 2.

said 'no' then brought him out and he just sniffed around but the 'damage' had already been done.

I'm a bit confused. Are you paper-training him and house-training him? That could also be adding to the problem. It's much easier to choose one method. If you are using both methods, do NOT scold him for going on the paper.

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PonkiPoodles

· #8 · Sep 9, 2009

sloane said:
not sure if this is normal, but murphy, who is 4 mo old, I thought was housebroken. Then over the last few days he has decided that he rather not go outside but inside.

I have caught him a few times and said "no" then brought him outside. He then doesnt go and I am out there with him for a while by keep telling him to 'go potty'

When I was a kid, we would put his nose in it (not all the way of course) and say 'no' then bring him outside, but i guess you cant do that anymore.

any ideas?

he also doesnt like the crate anymore. Should I put him back in the crate.

Don't expect a dog to be fully housebroken until after 1 year. Just keep taking him outside and praising him if he does go potty outside - when he goes in the house try to catch him... say no firmly and immediately take him outside..... don't ever, ever rub a dog's nose in it/spank him etc! That is negative reinforcement and hardly ever works, besides it's unsanitary and your dog kisses you with that nose later?!?!? Eeewwww
It has been proven over and over again that dogs excell twice as fast with positive reinforcement.

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Cdnjennga

· #9 · Sep 9, 2009

PonkiPoodles said:
Don't expect a dog to be fully housebroken until after 1 year.

I was just going to say this. He may make mistakes for a while yet. Consistency on your part is the key. Don't let him have free rein, that's when mistakes will happen out of your sight! And those are the hardest to correct.

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sloane

Discussion Starter · #10 · Sep 10, 2009

thanks all. this helps allot. For some reason I thought it didnt take that long.

I'm a bit confused. Are you paper-training him and house-training him? That could also be adding to the problem. It's much easier to choose one method. If you are using both methods, do NOT scold him for going on the paper.

Well, we put paper down since he likes to go on it, but I didnt train him to do that, he just does. should i not put the paper down? I didnt want any pee on my floors.

the only time I tell him NO! is when i actually catch him just about to start, if he already did it, then its 'my bad'....I take responsiblity for that since I probably should of walked him sooner.

I guess the issue I have the most, is after we come in from trying to go potty, and he doesnt go, then within a few minutes he decides he needs to go.

I didnt know it takes a year, at least that gives me some idea as I thought it was sooner.

thanks all.

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