Since we have been discussing color in poodles on the thread "What is the matter with people" I thought I would start a new thread on the origin of the red poodle. Ilse was a resident of Catskill, near where I live in NY, and she is responsible for the Red Standard. I almost bought a puppy from her but it was my first visit to see a poodle and they were soooo BIG lol - she had a red male named Patrick come and see me and he was just gorgeous but so tall I chickened out. Later I found Ginger, who was a little smaller. Not long after, Isle passed away and friends near Albany took over her dogs. They still call it the Shangri-la Kennel and her pictures and photos are still on the site. Here is a link about the Red Standard - enjoy!