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I just took bobby to the vet to get a check over and have his ears cleaned they were dirty,is this normal behaviour for a young puppy??

She had to muzzle him to finish what she was doing,he was growling and trying to bite :(

She cleaned his ears up and i got him a combi flea and wormer drops,she said he was healthy :)

He screamed all the way there and all the way back and wouldnt keep still guess hes found his feet and doesnt like the car.

Any advise please I didnt have any of this with my other poodle?Or is it a standard thing and a boy thing?
 

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I have 2 dogs, Roo is a mini and Quincy is a hairless chinese crested. When Roo goes ot the vet she is so placid and will let the vet do anything to her, she is really really good. Even the vet was surprised that she just laid or sat there and let the vet do whatever she needed to do without complaint.

Quincy on the other hand is a bear at the vet's, he has been yearly since we got him at 6 months old, he doesn't bite or try to bite though (he has few teeth anyway lol) but he certainly is much more resisitant to letting the vet near him. He WILL let them do their work but you can tell from looking at him its because he is scared out of his mind. He hates teh vet and I have no idea why, they haven't ever hurt him, I go in for every exam etc etc...vet says that he might just be putting on a show because I'm there, she thinks if I left he would be fine. I won't leave him when he is that afraid, to me seems cruel.

So 2 dogs, 2 very different temperments, 2 very different reactions to vet care. I think it just depends on the dog really. Roo is so calm and very passive she doesn't seem to have a care in teh world, she loves strangers, kids, other animals etc etc. QUincy is very guarded as a rule with strangers, but once he gets to know you he is a real snuggle bunny. Thankfully we have had no need for him to get to know the vet that often. He hasn't ever been sick in all his 5 years (knocking on wood now b/c I likley jinxed myself lol)
 

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No it's not a standard thing or a boy thing - it's a discipline thing!
Sounds like Bobby is use to getting his own way, and has realised if he carries on enough what ever is hapening will stop.

Cleaning ears if a very routine task for a poodle and he will need to get use to it. I suggest you go through the motions every second day or so, hold his ears, pretend to clean them even if just the outer ear flap. You need to be 'no nonsense' about it, it will happen and he needs to understand that you are the boss and you will make sure nothing bad happens to him.

Lots of short trips in the car to nice places, and treats on the way when he is quiet. Even if he stops for 5 seconds give him a treat.

I reckon the sooner you get clippers on him the better too. A squirmy non co-operative pup is bad enough, one that's trying to bite you as well doesn't sound like much fun to me at all.

Some basic obedience would be good too, come, sit, drop that sort of thing. It will reinforce that you are the alpha dog, you set the boundaries and you will protect him and can be trusted.

ANyway enough of my ramblings, that's what I would do if he was mine. The other more experience peeps will probably have better advice.
 

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I wouldn't worry to much yet as the poor boy has just been taken away from his family and put into probably a very busy noicy house then taken to a very busy noicy vet that wants to do some indignaties to him. Firm solid rules and expectations will keep him in line he is still a baby but needs rules that will be the rest of his life. biting nipping whining are not acceptable.
Poor little guy don't baby him yet don't expect him to understand it all in a weekend either
 

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Thanks guys,was just worrying,years ago talking about 12 we had a english bull terrier,got her from 8 weeks old,she wouldnt sit with you would never sit still always jumping up to bite you,i thought it was just puppy biting we used to use water pistals ect to try and get her out of this she would snarl with her gums back and literally take a chunk out of you.

I tryed and tryed with this dog,and once she got 2 a year old i came to the conclusion she had a problem she wouldnt walk along the street and no one could pet her.
I used to be bruised from her bites :(
Well i rehomed her with a lady with no children i explained the situation and she took the dog,she said she had 20 years experience with this breed,so off she went.
Two months later she rang and had to home her with a man with no kids as shed mawled her childs neck,:( i did warn her.
So you see i get a bit over precautious after that it kind of plays on my mind at a times.
 

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You have to be careful rehoming dog's with behavior issues, reccently there has been a trend with people getting sued for dog's they rehomed with known behavior problems like biting. I'm glad that didn't happen to you, because like you said, you did warn her!

I think Bobby just needs some social skills and training and he shoud be A-OK. It isn't uncommon for dog's who aren't used to having their feet or ears messed with to growl or bite if they don't like it. It's the only way he has (or so he thinks anyway) to tell you he doesn't like something. Probably he did get away with murder so to speak in the past. Obviously that will stop now :) He just needs to learn a new set of rules and go from there.
 

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No it's not a standard thing or a boy thing - it's a discipline thing!
Sounds like Bobby is use to getting his own way, and has realised if he carries on enough what ever is hapening will stop.

Cleaning ears if a very routine task for a poodle and he will need to get use to it. I suggest you go through the motions every second day or so, hold his ears, pretend to clean them even if just the outer ear flap. You need to be 'no nonsense' about it, it will happen and he needs to understand that you are the boss and you will make sure nothing bad happens to him.

Lots of short trips in the car to nice places, and treats on the way when he is quiet. Even if he stops for 5 seconds give him a treat.

I reckon the sooner you get clippers on him the better too. A squirmy non co-operative pup is bad enough, one that's trying to bite you as well doesn't sound like much fun to me at all.

Some basic obedience would be good too, come, sit, drop that sort of thing. It will reinforce that you are the alpha dog, you set the boundaries and you will protect him and can be trusted.

ANyway enough of my ramblings, that's what I would do if he was mine. The other more experience peeps will probably have better advice.

I totally agree with this advice. We have had issues with a couple of our dogs and the answer was to establish that I was the alpha and they had to be submissive to me. Once they learned that, handling them became easier and easier until it was no longer an issue. Dogs are pack animals and one of them has to be the alpha and that one should be you. Otherwise, you will get no respect. I can remember when clipping their feet was a nightmare. Now they just stand relaxed and let me do it.

I wish you luck with getting him under control. You will enjoy your dog so much more after that.
 
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