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I bought my first puppy EVER and will be receiving her on Tuesday, hopefully. This is my first pet ever so I'm reading tons about them bc I want my puppy to be happy and healthy. I have a lot of questions being a first time parent ha so I'm hoping you guys are able to assist me.

I live in a fairly small apartment. My bedroom is pretty big, but the bathroom isn't too spacious. I want to train my puppy to use a litter box bc I'm trying to hide her so I don't have to pay extra for rent ha. In the case that I'm caught I am prepared to pay the extra $200, but if there's any way to avoid it I will which I plan on doing by making my puppy go to the bathroom indoors and I'll take her to my friend's neighborhood for walks bc I don't really want her walking around my apartment complex anyway. What I'm confused on is crate training. I play on keeping my puppy in her crate when she's sleeping and whenever I'm not home to watch her. I've read that this is an effective way to housebreak them, but I'm getting confused as to HOW. The way I understood it was that they are to not go to the bathroom in their crate..but then it says to have a pee pad or something in there with them for the pups to use the bathroom. Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? As I said my bathroom isn't too big, will that be a problem with her using the litter box?

Also, with food I read that they can either always have food available or I could put her on a food schedule. I was leaning towards the latter because it also stated that when you have scheduled feedings you can better housetrain them as their bathroom use is more predictable. But everything I've read after that stresses the importance of always having food available for the puppy. I don't know which one to do! Also, I asked the breeder company what type of food she is eating right now and she's on Pro Pac and they suggested I keep her on that at least until she's an adult...is this good dog food? I will do my own research, of course, but wanted to see if anyone has used that food and whether it was good for your puppies or not. She also said I should give her Nutri Cal for the first two weeks. Not really sure what the purpose of that is..I read if their blood sugar gets low they can get comatose and that freaked me out! I don't know what I would do in that case. Has anyone ever had that happen? Should I keep food available for her always to avoid that? I'm concerned about her overeating.

I have to pick her up from the airport. She's 8 weeks so she's just a baby..should I not take her out of her crate while at the airport since she doesn't have all of her shots? Has anyone ever had a puppy arrive to them via airplane? I'm really concerned that she's going to be super scared. I wish she didn't have to be sent that way, but I couldn't find any toy poodles in AZ :(

Sorry for all of the questions. I am feeling overwhelmed and I want to ensure I'm a good mommy to her. :) Forgive my pet ignorance. I probably should have educated myself more before I bought her, but at least I'm doing it before her arrival.
 

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Congratulations on getting your new puppy, and welcome! This forum is a wonderful place to learn. I am "poodle-less" right now, so I will let others with more expertise handle your questions! Best of luck to you!
 

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Hi...what about one of those pet park things...kind of like a "litter box" box for dogs...they are a little grass thing...

Like this one, for example..

https://www.pottypatch.com/

I don't think that is a good dog food... I was looking at some ingredients and the second ingredient is corn...not good. I'd transition her onto something better...

It is quite common to ship animals... Does seem scary for them, but I am sure she'll be fine! You might have to take her out because she might be a little dirty... may pee or poop... Not sure how long she'll fly... Plus I am sure a little snuggle would do her good... Just don't put her down anywhere...Bring a blanket if you have to put her on a counter or something...Maybe wipe it down with some wipes... Or just wait to get to your car?

HOW exciting... I get my puppy in about a week! What are you naming her?
 

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1. Crate training...the reason why it is generally effective for potty training is because most dogs do not like to go to the washroom in the same area they sleep. Most pups will cry, bark, whine if they need to go to the washroom but are in their crate. Also, because they are in the crate, they cannot go somewhere in the house. DO NOT put a pad or anything in the crate until the pup is potty trained.

2. Food...schedule feeding is best in my opinion. You know how much they eat, when they ate it, and when to expect a need to potty. Also, with toy poodles, the margin between being a healthy weight and overweight is VERY small, and without controlled proportions, the dog can easily become fat.

3. Airport...leave the pup in the crate until you can access a safe grassy area. The pup will likely need to potty, unless they went in the crate already. Avoid areas that are frequented by dogs. Some pups are very scared by the experience, others come out of the crate as though they've been with you forever. The good thing is that scared or not, puppies tend to be very resilient and she should get over it in a few days time, at most.

4. I would not try to hide the dog.
 

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I wanted to mention, there is a thread about parvo going on here. I would wait until you get to a safe, grassy area, like Locket mentioned. I think puppies will chew a pee pad if you put in it the crate; I would leave it bare. Potty park sounds like a good idea.
 

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Kodi was shipped, we had just had a major ice storm, so I also had to wait a few extra days for him. I only live about 10 miles from the airport so I didn't let him potty until we got home. He didn't have all of his puppy shots when I got him so I didn't want him down around the airport.

My dad drove me to the airport so I could sit in the back seat with him. (He took the day off and everything! My dad LOVES Kodi, and has spoiled him from day 1) I took a bunch of towles, and paper towles, baby wipes and a bottle of water just in case he was messy when we picked him up. When we got into the car I put a towel on my lap and I opened his crate door(I couldn't wait). He was a little shy at first. But after a few moments he crawled out onto my lap. Luckily he wasn't very messy.

When we got home we walked around a good bit before he pottied. But when he got inside he opened up right away and started playing.
 

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I think I can share my experience regarding the litter box. Nickel, my 20 wks old mini poodle, is using the Purina dog litter box and litter with no problem. He took onto it within 5 days he came home (he flew in when he was 9 wks old). There were a few times that he peed right before he could reach in the box but that was when he was very young. Now he has no problem doing his businesses in there. The litter is made of recycled paper and it really absorbs odor well. We tried the Petco dog litter and it's terrible. We put the litter box on our balcony and Nickel is now bell-trained - so every time he needs to use the litter box he would ring the bell hung on the balcony door. Oh, I crate-trained him too. So he stays in the crate at night and whenever we are not home. For the first 10 days, I carried him to the litter box straight from the crate. After that he could pretty much walk to the balcony by himself without any accident. He tried to eat the litter sometimes but since it's paper, it's okay. Once he realized it's nothing as tasty as his after-business treat, he gave up on that habit.

Regarding picking up your new puppy at the airport, I would not take him out of the crate. Your new puppy may not be leash-trained and he would be very scared after the flight so it can be dangerous letting him out of his crate (he may try to run away while you are putting a collar + leash on him, etc). And like CK said, your new puppy probably hasn't got all his shots so I don't think letting him use the potty area at the airport is a good idea. He would probably have relieved himself in the crate anyway. Why not just drive him back to your place, give him a bath and clean up the crate? At least that's what I did when Nickel flew in.

And I agree w/ Locket, try not to hide your dog. He needs to go out and walk and run even if he's using the litter box indoor. I don't think you can hide him for too long.

Good luck with your new pup. Looking forward to seeing the pictures of your new family member :)
 

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B/c hypoglycemia is such a risk, very few reputable breeders will sell any toy breed puppy before 12 weeks of age. I hope you've really checked out this breeder.
 

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I agree about not hiding the pup - not good for either of you, or your neighbours. I have two toy dogs - whether you leave food down, or feed on schedule will depend on whether you need to leave your pup. I would not leave a toy puppy without food for more than a few hours during the day (you don't say how old she is, or what the breeder recommends as a feeding schedule, but I would expect her to be on 3 or 4 meals a day). I would never leave one without water, especially if feeding a dry kibble. I know it is sometimes recommended that you remove the water bowl at 7pm while housetraining, but for a young puppy, of a small breed, I would prefer to risk a few puddles than potential damage from dehydration.

Food - if you decide to change from the breeder's recommendation, change her over slowly. An upset tummy will be unpleasant for both of you!

Are you getting a bit muddled between a crate and a puppy pen? A crate should be just big enough to make a safe, cozy den for your puppy. A pen gives her space to run around, play, and use her litter tray. Small pups have small bladder capacities - she may need to pee more often than a bogger pup, and may take longer before she can fully control her bladder too.

Don't risk putting her down anywhere other dogs may have been until she is fully vaccinated, and I agree schnauzerpoodle - don't take her out of her crate at the airport if you can possibly avoid it (how long is your drive home from there?). Far better that she meets you for the first time in the calm comfort of your home, rather than the scarey chaos of the airport.

Finally, invest in a big bottle of Simple Solution pet stain and odour remover - no matter how careful you are, you will need it, especially with rented carpets, rugs, etc! And start looking for a really good, reward based puppy socialisation class - not one that lets the pups run loose in a free for all, but one that teaches them to feel safe around other dogs and people (in the UK the classes run by APDT trainers are excellent). Not only will this be good fun for both of you, and set your puppy on her way to being a civilised adult, but it gives you access to all the expertise and experience of the trainers - I have found them very, very helpful with advice and support.

Lots of good advice here - look particularly at the free downloads "Before you get your puppy" and the other puppy raising articles in Training Textbook - http://www.dogstardaily.com/
 

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I wanted to say congrats on your new puppy.

I also wanted to mention, as a previous manager of an apartment complex and as a new owner of a spoo puppy, the yapping that will come from the crate when you leave the puppy will give you away in a second. It is a good thing you have the money as a back up. :)

Have fun! This place is a great information site.

Kim
 

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Littleknitwit, congrats on your puppy as well! We're both getting them next week :) I'm naming her Charlie. What are you naming yours? That potty patch thing is awesome. I had never seen it before. Can they poop on that too, though? I mean I get them not wanting to put that in the infomercial ha but all I'm reading is how it absorbs urine. Seems like it'd be a pain to clean poop off of it. Has anyone ever used this?

Margotsmom, they're sennding her on Continental Airlines bc I guess they have the temp controlled the whole way through and they're sending her at night. I have to pick her up at 9:30 which kind of sucks bc I wanted to play with her, but Phoenix is so miserably hot that's really the only way to do it safely.

Schnauzerpoodle, OMG! Bell trained! Ha I love it. That's so awesome. What a smart dog! Everything I read said not to use newspaper bc it's messy, but I didn't consider that the puppy might try eating the litter. That's not good. Do you think I should use newspaper instead? It seems easier to me. Has anyone litter trained a toy poodle? I'm wondering what size of litter box I should get since she's so super tiny.

Harley, I did check out the breeders. I fell in love with her and everything I've ever read says toy poodles are ready to go home at 8 weeks. She will be 9 weeks by the time she arrives. They seem reputable enough. I got her from purebredbreeders.com which is where celebrities get their dogs so I felt they were a safe company to go with.

FJM, she's 8 weeks right now. I tried contacting the breeder directly but the company I went through said they don't give their contact information during the sale and I will have it once the puppy arrives which I found odd. I wanted to know what her feeding schedule is, what she's eating which is when they told me that food and how if they're trying to housetrain her. I get grossed out really easily so I'm dreading accidents. Luckily my little brother has offered to do the cleaning up ha. The drive home from the airport is only about 10 minutes. I just didn't want to wait to hold her, but I think I will. Although in the directions I got for her arrival it says to give her Nutri Cal as soon as I pick her up from the airport. I don't know if I should slightly open the crate to give it to her or if I should wait until we get home..what did you guys do? I suppose it's different for toys since they're much smaller than the other poodles. I've been looking for puppy training classes to help train her as well as socialize her but the only one I know if is provided by the pet store Petsmart and I've had friends take their dogs there and they said it sucks. And I'm worried about her being around bigger dogs since she's so tiny.
 

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Congrats on your new puppy and best of luck in raising her to be a happy companion. Poodles are great dogs, and take to training like ducks to water. There are some very good youtube videos out there on training in general and clicker training in particular, if you are interested. It's a great way to engage with your dog. Someone on this forum recommended Kikopup's videos, and I would pass that recommendation on. Clicker training could make you litter box training super easy.

Not bashing, but I had a look at website you referenced, the one you've ordered your puppy from, and to me, it screams puppy mill broker in about a thousand ways.

If it were me, I'd get the pup checked by a vet first thing.

I have never heard of this broker before, but it is pretty easy to find people who have had experience with them; there are some comments by previous customers of this site at Purebred Breeders.com Reviews, Complaints and Compliments and Purebred Breeders LLC Review | Rip-off Report #612372.
 

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Whaaaat? Puppy mills are what I was trying to avoid. Oh, no. I hope she's ok :( I still want her, though. That's what I get for trusting those damn Kardashians..anything they promote I'm all over. I'm such a sucker for celebrities. I am taking her to the vet, though. It's required, actually. Ugh I'm so worried now. They seemed reputable to me! I didn't think to research them, I just saw that celebs got their dogs there so I figured they were ok. Ugh ugh ugh!
 

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I would like to implore you not to take your pup out in public until it has had its third shot. I always wait two weeks after it before taking them anywhere another dog may have been.

I free feed my dogs, but not when they are puppies. Pups are schedule fed, because food in, poop out. It is so much easier to potty train if you know when they are schedule fed.

Crate training in my opinion is imperative. Pups are teeth with legs. If you crate the puppy when you leave your home, you will always know what you are going to come home to. No chewed couches, no chewed garbage...a much nicer thing to come home to.

I recently shipped a puppy from Iceland. When they brought the crate to me, I opened the crate door and let him walk out on his own steam to me. He came bouncing out of the crate, tail wagging 90 miles an hour. He was fabulous!!! They are so resilient and accepting. The flights do not bother them in the least. A Facebook friend just shipped a breeding puppy from Australiia to Sweden and that was a three day affair from beginning to end, and he was absolutely fine when he arrived at his destination.

I do agree however that this is a lot for a toy dog at eight weeks of age. I would ask your breeder to hang on to the pup for a few more weeks, even if you have to pay board for them to keep it. Much safer for the puppy. Just my opinion.
 

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Honestly, I would not get the pup. Not only are you supporting these disgusting puppymillers, you're risking getting a very unhealthy dog and a very temperamentally unstable dog.

If you want to start off on the right foot, DO NOT get this dog.
 

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I just want to cry now. I think I have to get her because I signed a contract. If I cancel now I'll have to pay $500. To me, technically an adult but I still consider myself a kid, that's a lot. And I am so in love with her. Ugh I don't know what to do.
 
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