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I am just curious. If a pup is born apricot with liver points and then before age 1 it fades to cream is it still considered apricot or a bad cream? This color stuff confuses me.
 

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oohhh, thats such an interesting question can't wait to see an answer. Jazz, according to the orgional contract/bill of sale from her first owner was supposed to be apricot, obvioulsy she isn't. Wish I knew what she looked like as a young pup though
 

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I can't wait to see the answer either. I thought Teddy's nose was black when I first got him, but it seems to be getting browner as he is getting older. His hair, on the other hand, is not that much lighter than when I first got him. My first apricot poodle ended up with body hair that was much lighter than his ears, although not quite cream. He had a black nose, if memory serves (it was over 20 years ago - LOL).

This color stuff confuses me too, and you guys have me so self-conscious of what color my dog's nose is! LOL :fish:
 

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I don't know but I'm interested as well. Desmond was apricot as a puppy, but I was told by the breeder he was cream and that he would lighten up considerably. His father was that color when he was a pup and is now just about all white... Desmond HAS lightened up a lot in most places, but still has very light apricot areas. I'm curious to know what his actual color is... I just call him a cream.
 

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We got Java as an apricot, but he was very red as a pup. Now, at 5 years old, he is definitely apricot. My girlfriend has a cream standard poodle and it is the spitting image of Desmond - she appears white with apricot tips even at 5 years old - UNTIL you see her next to a white poodle. A white poodle, IMO is snow white - like a blinding white with no hints of any other colour. I may be wrong, but that is what I've seen.
 

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My understanding is that it's still an apricot and also that it should have black points. if he was born with a red nose then I'm told it's bad breeding. As both white and apricot should have black points. hope this helps.
 

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OLD THREAD ALERT!

IT will be a cream with bad pigment. Vienna was born pure apricot, and now she's a cream with some ugly wannabe apricot color in her ears, but at almost 4 years old her pigment is still pretty dang dark.
 

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I think that you will also need to look at the pedigree. A puppy might turn a light apricot or a deep cream and still be considered a "genetic" apricot. This is an apricot a very light apricot. The white, cream, apricot, and red gene are all the "ee" gene. That is why many people get a color test on a black poodle and think it actually carries the apricot gene,because it comes back carrying the "ee." This is not necessarily apricot but could be cream or white.

The nose on an apricot can be a self colored nose and still be acceptable as an apricot. Black is preferred, but self color is still in the standard.

Many apricot and red lines do fade, several lines have a darkening gene. But at some time in any mammal's life span we will all fade somewhat! It is nice when they darken!

Terry
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"One must first build a house before painting it!"
 

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We got Rooney as a rescue, he was about 2yo. His body was apricot, his ears a much deeper red. His nose and nails were liver. When he went to the Bridge last Oct at age 15, he had faded some, his coat was full of white hair.

Rescue named him, said Rooney was the Celtic word for red head.
 
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