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just wondering if anyone has any advice: My beautiful and otherwise loving Standard has developed over the last six months some not so friendly behaviours towards other dogs. We have done several obediance classes, so it is not that he hasn't been exposed to other dogs. I find it is especially when he is on leash. If he meets another dog, he is fine until the dog wants to sniff or especially gets in his face. He has snapped at other dogs. The obediance instructer said that he just needs exposure but I am finding it difficult to facilitate that, as I am afraid that he may bite another dog...any suggestions how to get him over this!!:)
 

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Call Cesar Millan! :laugh: or get his book maybe? There's some great dog trainers on here, hopefully they can give you some tips too :)
 

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I'm no expert, but I know on leash aggression is a common and often difficult to break problem. There's a lot of reasons dogs act out on leash from fear to frustration to aggression. Our PWD has a problem with meeting dogs on leash, but is usually fine meeting dogs off leash. Your pup is still young so hopefully you can sort this out now, before it gets too bad.

I would google "dog on leash aggression", you'll find lots of info on it. You might also want to consult another trainer to help you when out on walks. Here's some info I found:

http://www.calgaryhumane.ca/leash_induced_aggression.pdf

http://www.cappdt.ca/public/jpage/1/p/Article2RewardSystem/content.do

http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIPS/DogTip_AggressionToApproachingDogsAndPeople.php
 

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First... have you read this article? By Suzanne Clothier http://www.nesr.info/images-english-shepherd/He-just-wants-to-say-hi.pdf

Poodles are dignified dogs. They have a very well developed sense of their own self worth and I believe that they believe that they are above other mere canines.

My dogs are not dog aggressive. They don't go out of their way to start trouble and I can have them off-leash on trails or out in public with no problems. However, both Gracie and Sabrina absolutely hate having some slobbery Lab or Golden get up in their face. They find it rude and they will say something about it.

In general, I don't let my dogs interact very much with other strange dogs. I assume that most dog owners are pretty clueless. I don't know if their dogs are sick or aggressive and I've found that most dog owners can't read their dogs and don't have good control over them. God I can't tell you how many times I've been standing in line at the Farmer's Market, with a dog sitting by my side, waiting to buy bread or peaches and someone lets their dog come over and get all on top of my dogs. I'm like... Hello? This isn't a dog park! I didn't ask to visit with your dog and by the way, could you keep your dog from topping mine? It's rude!

So since your dog doesn't like other dogs in his face, why force the issue? Just give the other dog owner a polite nod of the head and keep walking OR put your boy into a nice heal position and if the other dog tries to come over, politely say, "Oh, sorry. We are working on our heal position. We can't visit today."

Now... if your dog is barking on the end of the leash... posturing... or actively being aggressive when he sees another dog. Well that is a different training issue.
 

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Moose is weird when other dogs sniff him... sometimes he tucks his tail and just stands there FREAKED OUT wide eyed... other times if they are sniffing too much or just another time he will snarl at them or lunge but it's out of fear because his tail his tucked... Moose is NOT well socialized I know that... if the dog is his size or smaller he will instantly go up to it sniff it, and then try to play with it. When we took him to the dog park a couple times he really didn't care about dogs and wondered from person to person. Now that we live so far away from large population he's home 99% of the time with me.

He does go to the dog daycare / overnight if we are going out of town and they say he's always in the "thick of it" playing with everyone.

Dogs are like people in that they react differently based on MANY variables.
 

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First... have you read this article? By Suzanne Clothier http://www.nesr.info/images-english-shepherd/He-just-wants-to-say-hi.pdf

Poodles are dignified dogs. They have a very well developed sense of their own self worth and I believe that they believe that they are above other mere canines.

My dogs are not dog aggressive. They don't go out of their way to start trouble and I can have them off-leash on trails or out in public with no problems. However, both Gracie and Sabrina absolutely hate having some slobbery Lab or Golden get up in their face. They find it rude and they will say something about it.

In general, I don't let my dogs interact very much with other strange dogs. I assume that most dog owners are pretty clueless. I don't know if their dogs are sick or aggressive and I've found that most dog owners can't read their dogs and don't have good control over them. God I can't tell you how many times I've been standing in line at the Farmer's Market, with a dog sitting by my side, waiting to buy bread or peaches and someone lets their dog come over and get all on top of my dogs. I'm like... Hello? This isn't a dog park! I didn't ask to visit with your dog and by the way, could you keep your dog from topping mine? It's rude!

So since your dog doesn't like other dogs in his face, why force the issue? Just give the other dog owner a polite nod of the head and keep walking OR put your boy into a nice heal position and if the other dog tries to come over, politely say, "Oh, sorry. We are working on our heal position. We can't visit today."

Now... if your dog is barking on the end of the leash... posturing... or actively being aggressive when he sees another dog. Well that is a different training issue.
Good Advice! I really like your thoughts and tactics. That makes sence to me as well. I have to say Ive noticed that Poodles seem to think they are above and beyond other canines. Other breeds seem to have a different approach to a Poodle then they do to other breeds. Its like they arent sure if that curly pretty four legger is really a dog or something of another species.
 

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I have not had to train a dog who displayed aggression at the end of a leash. I imagine it must be difficult for you and for him. I hope that you find a training method that works.

We start training our spoos as soon as they come home in socialization. They go everywhere with us and we encourage strangers to interact. Eventually we introduce new dogs to them if the other owner is willing and their dog is interested in getting to know ours in a friendly way. I have never experienced the spoos displaying an attitude of being above other dogs. They are actually anxious to interact and make friends.

Best of luck in finding a resolution to the problem you are having.
 

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Thanks for you great tips. I read the links that all of you included and they were really helpful. The point about protecting your dog from rude dogs does make sense to me and respecting his individual personality. I think that Schumann is not so much aggressive as being defensive and fearful of other dogs invading his space. We are able to go out on walks with other dogs and can pass by strange dogs on walks without a big show. We will continue to work on it, but maybe I will not feel like such a bad dog trainer in the future!
 

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Is it Only when dogs get in his face on leash, or does he try and actually "go after" them? Riley too does Not like other dogs that get in his face. He is perfect off leash, likes other dogs, etc. When they get pushy and in his face *on leash* he will tell them off. Riley likes all other dogs to have the same wonderful manners that he has. :D I dont see it as aggression, and i know he would never actually bite anyone. He snarls and makes a face, which in dog language i find perfectly acceptable for him to do. I dont like people in my bubble either that are pushy. As long as you can control him, and he is not doing this behavior "unprovoked" then i would not worry. Dogs have a right to let another dog know they dont like it.
 

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If you can feel him squaring up when another dog approaches, just turn and walk away, if he keeps turning and looking back,check him gently but firmly and distract him, when you have his focus again praise him lavishly. Keep doing this and eventually he will realise you are in control and he doesnt need to be. If the other dog is off lead, call the owner over to help and just say you are in training.

I totally agree with the issue of other owners being clueless of their dogs antics. I walk 5 toys off lead everyday and only need to call them over to avoid other dogs. But the other owners let their huge labs etc try to hump my 10 lb dogs, saying 'he is only trying to play' Ok then just let him break my dog's backs then if it entertains him!!!
 

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When I first got my spoo a year ago now, she could not sight another dog without losing it. It wasn't extremely aggressive and she never bit another dog but she just lost it. She was 3 1/2 at the time and we put is down to no socialisation. We also found out she was tied up the majority of the time (at her old place) and we think dogs must have attacked her and come on to the property as she was particularly worse when she was on leash. Now after a year of reading many dogs books and going to agility and obedience classes every week for 8 months, she has improved enormously, and just the other day she allowed 4 new dogs to come up to her and sniff her which has never happened before as that usually set her off.

My advice to you would be to get the book 'The Dog Listener' by Jan Fennell as it provides invaluable information. I would also suggest stop going on walks where he is usually particularly funny around dogs until he improves much more around them, and be wary about what dogs you allow near him, as one bad one will make the situation much worse.

All you can do is put the hard yards in and do your best,
good luck :)

Plz tell us on any progress
 
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