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Okay, I just got to ask..what is the big deal with the designer dogs?
I mean my husband owns "Chunk," our Schnoodle out of my black
stud ( he was free to us of course). But what I'm saying is why do
these cross bred dogs cost so much? In some cases they are more
than a purebred dog around here that I've seen, you'd think someone
would rather have a purebred dog with papers than basically a mutt.

I even have a fondness for Maltipoo's and Shihpoo's, but here I sit
wondering why they cost so much and why people are so eager
to have them.

What is your take on these dogs?
 

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I agree why do they need all these cross breeds. Although I do have one so I can't say to much. A nice thing about them is that it cancels out a lot of problems that each breed has. I think though they are being bred to much.
 

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I get the less health problems since that is a huge problem with alot if not all breeds, but if you choose your puppy carefully you can at least lessen the risk. We have even considered a poodle mix to maybe get a healthier puppy, but I think alot of the breeders are careless and you probably have just as much health risk as with a purebred. Around here labradoodles were very popular and now there are soooo many in the shelters, a sure sign of poor breeding.
 

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I don't buy the less health problems. These dogs are usually bred by people that don't care about health problems. Therefore the lineage probably has many health problems. If you want a mix breed go to the pound and save a life. Sorry this really irritates me.
 

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I don't think it lessons health issues either. I really feel that the people who breed for a mixed dog use's that as a selling point. Healthy mutts! lol

I don't get Goldendoodle's and labradoodles. What is the point of it? Poodles already love water, retrieve, hunt, great with kids, dog friendly and are just as large as most golden's and labs. People don't realize you can cut the poodle to look like what ever your preference is. Thats the best thing about Poodles, they are so versitle. (sp)

I have seen some adorable Goldendoodles and labradoodles though.
 

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A nice thing about them is that it cancels out a lot of problems that each breed has. I think though they are being bred to much.
What a load of crap Rl :mad: Are you an expert on this are you? Dont get me started on this crap. All you do it double up on genetic problems not cancel out any problems. Poodle breeders do everything in their power to test for any bad genetics and continue to improve on the breed, other breeders will do genetics to cancel out problems in their breeds also. Some farms choose to buy from good breeders but lie about their intensions and say they want a pet. So they have a purebred geneticly clear of problems. Then they put them together. And sometimes have a healthy dog, but not something that has cancelled out any problems since they were already cancelled out to start with.

I cant believe that anyone would by a crossbred mutt when they could have a purebred, of any breed. If a purebred poodle wasnt so healthy, why the hell would they be crossing it with all other breeds?
 

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Can everyone please stop using these fancy names they give these crossbreeds. I dont know how many ppl have said they are a purebred labradoodle or cavoodle, when they are infact a labrador x poodle, cavalier x poodle. Please use the x in there. They arent worthy of these fancy names and they certainly arent a breed. They are a x breed.
 

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I don't have a problem with these dogs. I don't doubt for a second that people are simply breeding them for the money, but they've got a demand to answer to.

I will have a problem when there are more labradoodles in shelters than pit bulls. This might be the trend to be perfectly honest, but I'd rather see a doodle in the hands of an irresponsible owner than a Dog Aggressive dog.

I don't mind people calling them what they want to call them. When someone has a beagle lab mix, they say they have a beagle lab mix. You don't see anyone running around insisting that they call their dog a mutt.

Call it a labradoodle or call it a labrador poodle cross, it doesn't make a difference to me. No matter what you call it, it is a dog. Calling it something different doesn't change what it is.
 

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Calling it something different doesn't change what it is.
Mutt

Mixed-breed dog, a dog that has characteristics of two or more breeds.


Even crossbreeds can be and are dog aggressive dogs. Not just pitbulls. Ive had pet owners of my pups dogs killed and badly injured by mastiff x's, rotty x's, staffies x's.
 

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I don't have a problem in theory about mixing breeds. Our purebreds came from mixing different dogs for desired traits way back when. What is a shame is that like Kela said that people are doing it just for the money and not to improve the breed. That will result in a lot of unwanted dogs in shelters.
 

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Our purebreds came from mixing different dogs for desired traits way back when.
Good point.

What is a shame is that like Kela said that people are doing it just for the money and not to improve the breed. That will result in a lot of unwanted dogs in shelters.
Unfortunately, this is true of both purebreds and mixes.

To each his own, if we could just get everyone to only purchase from reputable breeders who are knowledgable and truly care about the animals they are turning out. Whether it be a purebred or a purposeful cross. To me, every animal in a shelter is there because of poor breeders. If they would be very discriminating about who they choose to sell to, how they sell (neuter/spay contract), then be prepared to take an animal back if they made the wrong decision, there would be ALOT less unwanted animals. Breeding should probably be highly regulated. Never gonna happen but would be nice!
 

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While that is true, personally I would gladly pay 1000+ for a doodle versus rescue a dog aggressive breed like a pit from a shelter.

Labradoodles (themselves nor the lab or the poodle) were bred to fight. Yes, ANY dog can be dog aggressive, but certain ones have a born propensity to be that way due to their breed. It is the same as saying that a jack russel is probably going to be a little more hyper than another breed of dog. Jacks were bred to be terriers...MOST of them have a certain quality to them.

Sivaro, I'm fine with you calling them a mutt. I also don't see that as any different than calling them a labradoodle or whatever they happen to be. Both words accurately describe what the dog actually is. Mutt can mean anything. If I tell someone that I live on the west coast, they do not know where I live. If I tell someone I live on the california oregon border, they have a much clearer idea of where I live. The same thing applies to this situation. Nobody is claiming that these designer breeds are a new breed or anything of that nature, but what is the difference in what we call them? Why is that such a big deal to some people? I do not understand.
 

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Nobody is claiming that these designer breeds are a new breed or anything of that nature, but what is the difference in what we call them? Why is that such a big deal to some people? I do not understand.
Its a big deal to me cause they arent diserving of a nab. They are a x breed, nothing more, nothing less. They are still trying to get the lab x poodle recognised as a breed, after 10 generations they just may get what they want. Till it is recognised as a breed they shouldnt be called any of these fad names.

What ****es me off here in Australian especially where I live is that the puppy farms are the ones that are going to win the right to breed. They are driving out our beautiful purebred dogs, doesnt matter about all the care and testing we do, and what the farms do not do they are trying to diminish all purebred dogs. Personally Im sick of our beautiful poodles being used for this stupid fad, they pic on our breed cause they are non shedding, non allergenic, smart to improve on other breeds.

All it takes is to look in the shelters to see which one is better. X breeds are always there, very rarely do you see a purebred in the shelter. 1000s or dogs are pts everyweek and its just so sad that these assholes just keep churning them out week in week out. As was said before REASON: Money
Too bad for the poor dog that thought he was going to be loved forever.

Take a look around, ppl see these designer dogs as cute as puppys, yes they are but so are most puppies. Then they grow up, most buyers have no idea of what they are going to look like, what height, what temperament they will have. They dont grow how they expect them to so they get dumped.

I think anyone on here supporting designer dogs aught to look at where they come from, poor parents are caged in a tiny cage and never ever let out, eye infections, matted, sleeping in their own faeces, brood bitchs fed once a day only, their legs if broken never get attended to so they have to live their days out in pain. I have only said a small number of things here, take a look and google some sites on puppy mills. Then look at these dogs you support and wonder how they got here. What their parents have suffer, what my Leo suffered. Yes he was used for producing designer dogs and when they no longer wanted him they tried to hang him, kicked the **** out of him, he was bruised well over a month later when he was xrayed to see how bad he was treated, starved, dehydrated, got clipped ripping his skin open especially his testies which were exposed, eye sores, ticks, fleas and hardly any hair left on his body. This thread is about DDs not pitties.

Your arguement is a bad one, Im not saying pitties shouldnt be banned, they are here in Australia. All pits are de***ed here, the others are crossbreds and are de***ed, others go underground for fighting dogs. Shitty life for them. If they arent registered they get destroyed instantly. So yours should be another thread an not in this one.
 

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Kela,

Please don't get started on Pits. Its became obvious that you have never loved, owned, or been around a real Pitbull or Amstaff. Any Pitbull that was properly bred or even just treated right has a wonderful temperment and love people. They are terriers just as a Jack Russel or a Airdale is a terrier. Thats were they get the dog aggressive part of them.... just like any terrier.

Its bull crap that Pitbulls are being banned because of what the society does to them. But guess what, they are a dog just like all of our dogs. They have a heart and feeling too. Don't be ignorant and feed into the killing of innocent dogs that have done nothing wrong. It is so hard to sit back and listen to people say bad things about a dog you love.

Do you know how hard it is to take your beloved dog to Petsmart and for people to give you dirty looks and tell you that dog should never be able to come in hear. While my Lotus hasn't a clue that she is a Pitbull and is behaving just like all the other dogs.

I don't expect you to like Pitbulls but I would really appreciate it if you could be a bit more considerate to the people hear that love and own them. You have made small comments on other post's about Pits and I can't ignore it this time.
 

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Thanks Sivaro...I was tearing up when I wrote that.

I still have a strong love for that breed. I wish I could save them all and give them the lives they deserve. And then take away all the bad people that are ruining it for people like me. I miss my dogs dearly but it was just to much for me. It feels like you are constantly fighting for them....which you are but its exhausting after awhile.

We had really nice dogs and a great opportunity to be successful with our Amstaffs. After 3 1/2 years with our AKC Ch bitch we bred for the first time to the #1 Amstaff in the country. It was his first breeding as well. It was a huge deal. Puppies were all spoken for a month before she delivered. One pup was still-born and the other she smothered the next day. Our girl Cherry was devistated for 3 weeks. After that we never wanted to breed again. After all the health testing, pregnancy exames and mental stress of the delivery thats what happened.

It was the worst dog experience ever! A year later still fighting for our breed and a situation with my rat terrier drove us to give them up. Later we realized that my rat terrier is aggresive and dominate to everyone including my Pitbull and probably challenged my Malibu and the larger dog won. I put my Malibu down because I thought she was turning into a hazard to society and wanted to be a responsible owner. I have never regreted anything so strongly in my life. I cryed weekly for a year after she was put down.

I love my dogs and always will. I can't help but defend them, who is going to if us people don't. Sorry I went on and on. Thats my story...Im still really brused and bitter about the whole situation.
 

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Im so sorry Jenn, you have got me crying for you now.

A friend of mine does everything for pitbulls also. She is the one everyone in Australia go to when the law has taken their dogs and try to pts them. She has won quite a few battles with council/legislation, saved many a dogs life. The only ones she wont defend is the ones that are aggressive. She isnt saying its their fault but the idiots who brought them up the wrong way. It has turned some into killing machines so there is only one fate for those.

Your story makes me sad for you and many like you that try everything for the love of their breed. I can honestly understand how so many would rather pts the owner rather than the dog.

Make that 3 *Hugs* now. I think you need it. :(
 

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Aww Jenn, I think everyone knows here how passionate you are for pitts!:)
And I know how you feel when you stated people give you dirty looks for
taking Lotus to a petsmart, it drives me nuts. You're really a good person
who stands up for your dogs rights, if every person was like that...WOW!

*HUGS*
 

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Let me tell you.
I really didn't like pitts for a long time, but in my newfies puppy training class there was a pitt and I realized how sweet some of them can be. I remember just wanting to take her home with me.
Now I am obsessed with them. Although my mom and dad said that two dogs were enough.
 

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Let me tell you.
I really didn't like pitts for a long time, but in my newfies puppy training class there was a pitt and I realized how sweet some of them can be. I remember just wanting to take her home with me.
Now I am obsessed with them. Although my mom and dad said that two dogs were enough.
See if more people were like you and gave these dogs a
chance....well ya never know!;)
 
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