I`m sure there are lots of happy accidents then. Like you say some breeders want to better the breed and want to deliver a dog to people they know who want one, but I would be hesitant to say that most breeders are like this.
I agree with your last point - especially when it comes to poodles. That's why it takes so long to do your research and find those breeders who are breeding for love of the breed!
How do you figure if they breed twice a year or once a year they don't make a profit? If the breeder does all the shots/health care and grooming then they may have a health test or two... and you know (well I know after talking to my vet) that breeders get a great discount at vets they use over and over and suggest to their clients. Sure there is time, but if it's a hobby then are we counting time as money in that instance... if not then the profit could be higher. I would say that 95% or more breeders would not do it if they were not making money... that may suck but it's true. BYB, Puppy mill or 'quality breeder' its true.
Low volume breeders with only a couple of house dogs are most likely not getting any vet discounts. I would guess only those who have a large number of dogs and litters per year see any sort of cost saving.
Consider the costs that go into planning for and breeding a litter of quality:
- Obtaining your breeding quality puppy
- Obtaining a conformation title/ other performance titles
- All health tests
- Stud fee (usually the cost of one puppy)
- Travel fees to get to the stud if it's at a distance or to fly the sperm to you - if using semen, the implantation cost of the vet
- the costs associated with 8 weeks of care of the puppies - maybe taking time off work?
- feeding costs for the bitch while she's nursing
- vet costs for the puppies (health checks, vaccination etc)
That's all I can think of right now, but I'm sure there's other costs I've missed!
Now, many health tests only need to be done once in the dog's lifetime or once a year. So now you can see why it's so attractive to some people to do back to back breedings, as you will most likely profit on the second. This has been up for debate already, but we saw on another thread why this isn't always a good idea... If you don't do any back to back breedings, then your costs will be double for the two bitches. So profit is still only a maybe, not a given.
How much do Poodles cost there? Out here you can spend $1500 to $2000 for ONE.
A mini poodle here is about 1200. So the money she will make on 2 pups is gone on her expenses so far. The money of one pup is gone on the stud fee. She's keeping one pup. So she would need to have a litter of at least 4 to even cover the costs she has already seen, before she's even had the litter of pups! The average mini poodle litter is 5.