[lehtinen]

the place looks great on website and they seem to have a variety....michele

 

[lily cd re]

They have too many dogs in the opinion of many here. Search older posts and threads on PF. You will see some old recommendations and newer cautions.

Looke at this thread for great advice on selecting a really good breeder. https://www.poodleforum.com/threads/buying-a-puppy-safely-the-basics.33522/

 

[PeggyTheParti]

Am I reading the website right — SIX October litters????

And the way they describe their "retiring breeders" makes me wonder how socialized the puppies would be.

 

[MaizieFrosty]

Crabapple is HORRIBLE.

 

[Streetcar]

Remember, the website of someone who has nothing better to do than sell sell sell can be super fancy, extra pretty, and highly appealing.

While the website of a scholar or another devoted to a higher calling and who must work to support his/her theses with science and evidence may not be as up to date, or utilize the newest technology.

Many will be well advised to consider this concept with regards to dog breeders as well ?.

 

[PeggyTheParti]

I just read some scathing things about this breeder from a 2016 Poodle Forum thread. I can't believe they're still in business. Makes my stomach hurt

 

[kontiki]

NO....

 

[lehtinen]

I just read some scathing things about this breeder from a 2016 Poodle Forum thread. I can't believe they're still in business. Makes my stomach hurt

They are really alive and well!!! Still breeding and from what I have learned, producing many litters, and dogs are in pens which really surprised me as their website looks wonderful and got the idea that they are all in a big wonderful bldg in and out, playing with each other all the time....but not true i guess --have not been there and won't as i got my poodle from the local shelter here.