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Hello poodle people, I have stumbled on site while on night duty, I have a tiny toy poodle lily she was chocolate when i bought her 6 weeks ago and now she is changing colour, she has bad regrowth on her top not she looks so funny with 1/2 an inch of latte colour then the chocolate on the top of that. and her feet looks like she has little latte socks on. I will post a pic when i am home and have some time, has any body else have a similar experience with change of colour. lily is 12weeks and we start puppy school on Thursday.
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Welcome to the poodle forum! Sounds like you have a "silver beige," like my Marley. See some pictures of him at: http://www.poodleforum.com/showthread.php?t=100. He was also a dark brown when he was born. According to Marley's breeder, she could tell that he was going to be a silver beige because he had white hair between the pads and toes on the bottom of his feet when he was born.

Here is a site that discusses poodle colors: http://qtpawzpoodles.tripod.com/poodlecolors.html. If this site is correct, the difference between "silver beige" and a similar color, "cafe au lait," is how early the color starts to change. Since your puppy is changing so early, I guess that she is a silver beige. Note that the page misspells "fading" as "fadding." But I guess good spelling and good poodle knowledge don't always go together. ;)

We love Marley's color and get tons of compliments on it. I hope you enjoy your puppy's color, too! Definitely post pics when you get a chance -- it will be cool to see the puppy as she changes.
 

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I have a standard that I always thought was black but recently I heard all this info about color fade and etc so now Im wondering. He is only 11 months now and appears to be black (black nose and dark brown eyes) but he has a brownish tint on his ears and underneath his pads (the hair). Does that mean he is a blue? Or a black with some brown tinting?

Anyone know ??
 

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Moose is brown/chocolate but he is turning grey....

When he was younger he had latte all over his head when we let it grow longer, now that we keep it short only brown.

On his pads he has a couple BIG white patches from his dad who was all white.
 

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It also depends on who you ask ;)

The "Silver Beige" color came about because of the lighter colored CAL dogs but according to the:

AKC standard: "blues, grays, silvers, browns, cafe-au-laits, apricots and creams the coat may show varying shades of the same color."

UKC standard: "Apricot, black, blue, cream, gray, silver, white, and all shades of brown, including café-au-lait."

They are varying sades of the same color :)
 

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See now I have also heard that Poodle hair, like people hair, can lighten if out in the sun. My boy just has a very light brown tint at the end of his ear's and underneath his feet. Maybe it really is the sun but then I hear people talk about how there dog was black (so they thought) then turned blue or grey. Plus he's hardly outside and the pads of his feet aren't in the sun.

Oh well, I guess I'll learn as I go. lol
 

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It probably just for normal ware and tear. I groom black Poodles and Poodle mixes who have some sun damage even being inside dogs and with discolored feet it could be that he licks at them or just from the dirt.

When dog coats fade like a silver or blue it starts at the skin ;)

This site as good info on coat colors.
 

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Welcome to the poodle forum! Sounds like you have a "silver beige," like my Marley. See some pictures of him at: http://www.poodleforum.com/showthread.php?t=100. He was also a dark brown when he was born. According to Marley's breeder, she could tell that he was going to be a silver beige because he had white hair between the pads and toes on the bottom of his feet when he was born.

Here is a site that discusses poodle colors: http://qtpawzpoodles.tripod.com/poodlecolors.html. If this site is correct, the difference between "silver beige" and a similar color, "cafe au lait," is how early the color starts to change. Since your puppy is changing so early, I guess that she is a silver beige. Note that the page misspells "fading" as "fadding." But I guess good spelling and good poodle knowledge don't always go together. ;)

We love Marley's color and get tons of compliments on it. I hope you enjoy your puppy's color, too! Definitely post pics when you get a chance -- it will be cool to see the puppy as she changes.
That's a great site! Thanks for the link!
 

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Hi. I am set to get a toy poodle pup next week and have some anxiety because she is not what they call a "good poodle specimen" due to her short legs, brindle color, and phantom markings. I've have a square toy poodle before for 16 years and she passed. Should I care about the "breed standard" or just get the poodle pup I seem to like?
 

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Hi. I am set to get a toy poodle pup next week and have some anxiety because she is not what they call a "good poodle specimen" due to her short legs, brindle color, and phantom markings. I've have a square toy poodle before for 16 years and she passed. Should I care about the "breed standard" or just get the poodle pup I seem to like?
I have never had a shot legged poodle but have seen them, I personally prefer the long legs. My poodles have always been square, the last one I got (adult) has the longest legs I have ever seen but her body is in comparison to her height still square. I often wonder why some have short legs, maybe someone here will know.
 

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chelista, welcome to PF. It is more usual for new people to start their own thread to introduce themselves than to add a new post to another thread (and in this case a really old and long inactive one). I am guessing that you posted here because you had searched about fading colors. My dogs are both blacks so I can't help you with that, but do suggest that you post your own introduction or post in poodle talk to ask you question in a place where more people will see it and offer answers.

Personally I would not support a breeder (if the pup you are interested in is from a breeder) who did not strive to meet the breed standard and who did not do health testing. However both of my standard poodles work in performance sports and need to have sound temperaments and conformation to be trained and to work. If the pup you are interested in is from a pet shop or back yard breeder you may want to reconsider supporting a situation that may support a puppy mill or otherwise less than excellent breeding.
 

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Hi. I am set to get a toy poodle pup next week and have some anxiety because she is not what they call a "good poodle specimen" due to her short legs, brindle color, and phantom markings. I've have a square toy poodle before for 16 years and she passed. Should I care about the "breed standard" or just get the poodle pup I seem to like?

In general, breeders who do not breed to the standard fail to take health issues into account in their breeding choices, so yes, you should be very concerned about the heartbreaking and costly medical issues that might develop down the road with that puppy. Sorry to tell you that, but was just reading on Facebook, a woman crying about how she is still paying off the thousands of dollars in vet bills that she had when her puppy first arrived, and she does not know how to pay for the two knee surgeries that it now desperately needs.
If you are going to bring that puppy home, please make sure to sign him up for insurance on the day that he arrives!
 

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I have never had a shot legged poodle but have seen them, I personally prefer the long legs. My poodles have always been square, the last one I got (adult) has the longest legs I have ever seen but her body is in comparison to her height still square. I often wonder why some have short legs, maybe someone here will know.

It is often caused by dwarfism perpetuated by breeders trying to create the smallest dogs possible without regard to health.
 

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I've read about the dwarfism too and I am so torn up! Should I cancel with this brewer? I feel like this little girl is already on my heart. My logical mind tells me to cancel but my heart is telling me to bring her home. She is almost10 weeks here and can someone tell me if her legs look like she surely has dwarfism? I don't want her to have spine issues, etc. I need help guys. Can I honestly walk away from her? Why do I love her despite the red flags and flaws??????
 

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I can still cancel her and find a dog who is more leggy and a show type poodle who has a square build. I was hoping she would still be healthy but I hear yall about breeders who don't breed to standard also not breeding for health. I have made pros and cons charts and been in agony over this decision for two weeks. She is $1500 and her personal flight out on the breeders lap is $400. A square poodle from another more reputable breeder would cost me $2000 so the money is the same. I don't know why my heart is so caught up here?!? Is she destined to be a life full of medical costs!?!?
 

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chelista, welcome to PF. It is more usual for new people to start their own thread to introduce themselves than to add a new post to another thread (and in this case a really old and long inactive one). I am guessing that you posted here because you had searched about fading colors. My dogs are both blacks so I can't help you with that, but do suggest that you post your own introduction or post in poodle talk to ask you question in a place where more people will see it and offer answers.

Personally I would not support a breeder (if the pup you are interested in is from a breeder) who did not strive to meet the breed standard and who did not do health testing. However both of my standard poodles work in performance sports and need to have sound temperaments and conformation to be trained and to work. If the pup you are interested in is from a pet shop or back yard breeder you may want to reconsider supporting a situation that may support a puppy mill or otherwise less than excellent breeding.
Oh I didn't know where I was posting. I'll try to do it correctly...
 
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