[Pudel-Fan]

I don't have the gold pin, so I can't answer for that but I can tell you the wooden one is wonderful. When I bought my first one I just got the small one ( this was before they did the groom grip) because I was just going to use it on ear hair. But it is wonderful and at the last group buy I bought the large with the groom grip and I have to say if I could only have 2 brushes, I would have the large CC wooden and the LePooche, green.

There is still a couple of weeks until the group buy closes so don't give up on the wooden one yet if you think that is the one you want. I like it so much if it gets down to just one brush needed to fill a case I'll buy another for my own hair. I have long naturally curly hair and I tried the one I bought on myself before giving to my boyz and I can see why they like me to use it on them, it feels good.

 

[Rowan]

Looking at the CC order it looks like there may be more of a chance of getting a gold pin brush than the wooden pin brush. The reason I signed up for the wooden was that it says dogs love it and that it feels like a massage for the dog. Is the gold pin brush the same feel as the wooden brush do you think? Or does it feel differently.
Also, one reviewer said that the rubber on the gold pin brush seems like it wears easily from the chemicals in other products. Do others see this or is the gold series a fairly durable pin brush?

I have the Wood Pin Brush and the Gold Series Pin Brush in the 35mm and 27mm sizes. I abuse my Gold Pin brushes in that I use them with grooming sprays and they appear to be quite durable. (I haven't noticed any damage to the 'rubber' base portion.)

I use the Wood Pin brush primarily as a massage tool! LOL Personally, I think the Gold Pin brushes do a better job when brushing out the coat. I use the 35mm on Merlin's long topknot and all bracelets. The 27mm is good for shorter hair and the 20mm is what I want for the short Miami body hair. The tines are gentle and don't hurt--I even ran it along my arm when I first got it to make sure. In short, it's a more versatile tool.

I hope that helps both of you!

ETA: Don't give up on a product just because there's only one or two requested thus far. We still have plenty of time before the buy closes and members will often purchase extra items to help fill cases.

 

[afkar]

Decisions, decisions. I have just been looking at the buttercombs & the brushes. I am thinking of the poodle comb but, as I am not doing anything like keeping long coat & tend to use the finer end of my current comb I am wondering if a combo might not be better. My lot are usually kept in a body clip with a #4 or #5 blade & only the topknot & tail kept longer as they are farm/beach/tracking dogs. I am also being tempted by the sound & reviews of the gold pin brushes & would like some ideas as to just how useful it would be. Currently I have a LP that ends up being used on the dogs especially when they come back with plant stuff in ears & topknots.

 

[plumcrazy]

Shampoos & Conditioners:
Spectrum One Shampoo - Love it!
Spectrum One Conditioner - Love it!
Spectrum One Substance Builder - Love it!
(The Spectrum One products are designed to be used together)
After U Bathe - I've liked it when I've used it, but sometimes I use a rinse of Ice on Ice instead.
Ice on Ice - I use it for LOTS of different things. There's sunscreen in it, so I'll spray it on my own hair (and my nieces' hair when we're playing by the pool!) I like it to mist hair while I'm brushing/combing to cut the static. Love it!

Health & Comfort:
Peace & Kindness - I use it on clipper burn, to help clean infected ears, and on the humans in the house too - hangnails, papercuts, etc... It's WONDERFUL!
Mystic Ear - I like the smell and performance. I change ear cleaners from time to time, but this is a good one!
Miracle Air - I spray it EVERYWHERE! I love it on crate pads, dog beds, MY bed!!! I even use it as an air freshener when my husband trys to "blame it on the dog"!! :doh:

Shears:
I know I have a 10" straight and a 10" curved CC shear(s) but I have NO IDEA what model they are - I just know that they cut like buttah!!! Love them!!

Buttercombs:
Uuuhhh... I have a LOT!! LOL!! I know I have the #004 Poodle Comb and the #011 Staggered Tooth (heavy, but works excellently) I have the #006 Face & Feet and the #007 Tail Teaser - then I know I have at least 2 more, but not sure which ones - I LOVE all of my CC buttercombs!! They are the first ones I grab in my toolbox!

Brushes:
Gold series 35mm pin brush - Love it!!
20mm pin brush - Love it!!
20mm Large wooden pin brush - Love it!!
GroomGrip Large oval wooden pin brush - Love it!!
(The wooden pin brushes are my FAVORITE to use on shorter summer haircuts! The dogs love the massage!)
16mm T-brush 5" head - Love it!!
Mark II small slicker brush - Love it!
Mark III medium slicker brush - Love it!
(I really like my LP silver slickers a little bit better - but the CC's are a close 2nd!)

Accessories:
Hold a Hose - don't know, haven't tried it yet, but looking forward to using it with my new Raptor
Spray bottle w/double action trigger - Love them! Very durable and I like the fine mist - some sprayers DOUSE when they're supposed to SPRITZ!

I've never been disappointed with any of Chris Christensen's products - Just like with almost everything else in life... you get what you pay for. Pay a little - get substandard products that don't last or don't perform the way you'd expect; pay a little more - get quality items that pay for themselves by outlasting the cheap stuff!

 

[CharismaticMillie]

Hands down my two favorite CC products are:

My original series (I think?) 8 inch short shank straight shears

and CC Clean Start shampoo. This is a product that probably isn't necessary for the majority of people, but when you are keeping a dog in oil it is AMAZING for weekly clarifying to get the oil and buildup out. (Only to re-oil of course, but it still prevents longterm buildup). I also love using it as a base shampoo for a show bath.

Oh and I also LOVE their round poodle slicker. The gold pin brush and the wood pin brush are nice, too. Ice on Ice, while not my favorite of all brushing sprays, is a good staple to have around in a spray bottle.

Products I am not crazy about:

White on white shampoo - did cause a slight blue cast on my dog even though I followed their instructions. Probably wouldn't bother a pet owner because he did get VERY bright white, but the blue cast was just a little bit of an issue...

Coarse coat shampoo/conditioner - softened my dog's coat when I used it one time for a show. Could barely get his hair to sprayup.

 

[Kloliver]

Hands down my two favorite CC products are:

My original series (I think?) 8 inch short shank straight shears

and CC Clean Start shampoo. This is a product that probably isn't necessary for the majority of people, but when you are keeping a dog in oil it is AMAZING for weekly clarifying to get the oil and buildup out. (Only to re-oil of course, but it still prevents longterm buildup). I also love using it as a base shampoo for a show bath.

Oh and I also LOVE their round poodle slicker.

Is it excessive for a non show coat? Too stripping for weekly use? Wld the Spectrum One be better- any experience with it?

 

[Kloliver]

Shampoos & Conditioners:
Spectrum One Shampoo - Love it!
Spectrum One Conditioner - Love it!
Spectrum One Substance Builder - Love it!
(The Spectrum One products are designed to be used together)

Ever use the Spectrum One with the After U Bathe instead?

 

[Dante's Mom]

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White on white shampoo - did cause a slight blue cast on my dog even though I followed their instructions. Probably wouldn't bother a pet owner because he did get VERY bright white, but the blue cast was just a little bit of an issue...

What do you think of this for using on a silver mini?

 

[plumcrazy]

Ever use the Spectrum One with the After U Bathe instead?

Nope - I used the Spectrum One shampoo, then the Spectrum One Substance Builder, then the Spectrum One conditioner followed by a rinse of Ice on Ice and another product that's like a generic Infusium - this process was recommended to me personally by Barbara Bird (who is a groomer for Chris Christensen) when Lucy was going through her coat change and we were trying to save coat.

Now that she's in a Miami clip - any shampoo/conditioner/rinse works fine!

 

[CharismaticMillie]

What do you think of this for using on a silver mini?

I've only used it on a white, so I'm not sure! Hopefully someone can help with more experience than me.

 

[CharismaticMillie]

Ever use the Spectrum One with the After U Bathe instead?

I used these two products on Tiger before a show once and the result was not good. His coat was softened too much. Every dog has a different coat and depending on your desired results + your dog's individual coat, you will find in time which products work best.

For example, my absolute favorite shampoo/conditioner combination for my boy's show coat is IOD Royal Jelly shampoo and Light Management conditioner. I have tried so many different brands and simply cannot find anything that works as well for his coat as those products. But, there are some people who have found this combination not to be ideal for their dog. Every coat really is different!

I DO use Spectrum One, though, for my pet girl's regular baths. I also use it for nearly daily washing of Tiger's pee stained legs.

 

[CharismaticMillie]

Is it excessive for a non show coat? Too stripping for weekly use? Wld the Spectrum One be better- any experience with it?

I'm not sure actually. I don't use it on my pet girl or on my mom's pet boy Henry because there just isn't any need to. Just on Tiger to help get rid of excess product in his coat (oil, heavy conditioner, hairspray, etc.)

 

[Rowan]

@CharismaticMillie:
Did you also try the Les Poochs Pooch Brite shampoo? If so, what did you think and how did it compare to CC White on White?

The Les Poochs shampoos/creme rinses are my favorite products thus far. I like the CC Black on Black (etc.) but I always reach for the Les Poochs.

 

[Kloliver]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kloliver
Is it excessive for a non show coat? Too stripping for weekly use? Wld the Spectrum One be better- any experience with it?

I'm not sure actually. I don't use it on my pet girl or on my mom's pet boy Henry because there just isn't any need to. Just on Tiger to help get rid of excess product in his coat (oil, heavy conditioner, hairspray, etc.)

I used these two products on Tiger before a show once and the result was not good. His coat was softened too much. Every dog has a different coat and depending on your desired results + your dog's individual coat, you will find in time which products work best.

For example, my absolute favorite shampoo/conditioner combination for my boy's show coat is IOD Royal Jelly shampoo and Light Management conditioner. I have tried so many different brands and simply cannot find anything that works as well for his coat as those products. But, there are some people who have found this combination not to be ideal for their dog. Every coat really is different!

I DO use Spectrum One, though, for my pet girl's regular baths. I also use it for nearly daily washing of Tiger's pee stained legs.

Thats why I'm getting the Big Kahuna Show Off No Rinse Clean this group buy. I mean WHAT IS IT with the angle of Spoo legs that attract a urine stream like no other?

What kind of coat does your pet girl have? Rango's is thick, coarse but soft, & not terribly curly- my Groomer says she LOVES it.

 

[CharismaticMillie]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kloliver
Thats why I'm getting the Big Kahuna Show Off No Rinse Clean this group buy. I mean WHAT IS IT with the angle of Spoo legs that attract a urine stream like no other?

What kind of coat does your pet girl have? Rango's is thick, coarse but soft, & not terribly curly- my Groomer says she LOVES it.

True to many brownies my pet girl has insanely coarse, thick, Brillo-Pad coat.

About Show Off - I do have that product and it works very well. Though I do have to admit I prefer Pro-Line Groom's Self Rinse Plus. I think it does a little better job and really adds some volume too. It's a staple for the show ring and for pee legs at home.

 

[Kloliver]

True to many brownies my pet girl has insanely coarse, thick, Brillo-Pad coat.

About Show Off - I do have that product and it works very well. Though I do have to admit I prefer Pro-Line Groom's Self Rinse Plus. I think it does a little better job and really adds some volume too. It's a staple for the show ring and for pee legs at home.

Have you found an inexpensive retailer/ shipper? A comment online mentioned that Show off "stinks"- does it really smell bad?

 

[pgr8dnlvr]

Hi all, so I read through all of the pages of this thread and still don't feel comfortable in having answers to my questions. I am bringing home my toy poodle next week and want to have what most consider the "must haves" for a poodle.

I can see everyone LOVES the poodle buttercomb, but is it appropriate for a small toy? When do you use a comb like that?

I am just so lost. In the past with my golden retriever I just bathed, blowdried with my hand dryer while brushing the coat out with a $10 slicker and that was it! What the heck is the process with a poodle? Do you brush before bathing or just bathe? How do you choose a shampoo? Is drying with a hand dryer and warm heat ok? What do I brush the coat with while drying?

I have a feeling I need a buttercomb, some ice on ice, 7" shears (which ones exactly) and maybe a pin brush? I have NEVER trimmed a dogs coat with anything other than clippers. Is there a slicker I should get? Why does everyone seem to go with pin brushes and not slickers?

I am just SO confused ...

Someone PLEASE help me?!?!

Rebecca

 

[afkar]

The biggest factor in the grooming stuff you get is the sort of clip & amount of coat your dog has. My three standards are all kept clipped short in "working/practical clip as they are farm dogs who do tracking in bush etc & often visit the beach where they love to run in the water etc all year round.
I am getting the poodle comb but am also getting a fine/coarse version since I comb out topknots, ears & tails since they often need tidying as they end up with hay etc in them when they help me feed horses etc. Other than that I have a LP slicker & that takes care of all our regular grooming. I have scissors for trimming topknots etc & clippers & that is it. As for shampoo I use a good general purpose one most recently IoD but as long as it is good quality that is it. I don't bother with sprays much unless they have really been in the scrub & got knotty heads but that very rare. Given the size of your new addition I would go for the basics & sizes that suit your hands & the dog.
I use my combs at least every other day this time of year for a quick comb through with my three just to keep them neat & comfortable.
Hope that helps a bit

 

[Rowan]

Hi all, so I read through all of the pages of this thread and still don't feel comfortable in having answers to my questions. I am bringing home my toy poodle next week and want to have what most consider the "must haves" for a poodle.

I can see everyone LOVES the poodle buttercomb, but is it appropriate for a small toy? Yes. A couple TPOO owners own and love this comb for their dogs. It's nice because while the comb is long, you can hold one end and brush / fluff with the other.When do you use a comb like that? I use mine while scissoring to keep the coat fluffed and straight, on their ears and bracelets/tail pom.

What the heck is the process with a poodle? Do you brush before bathing or just bathe? I'm just a home groomer but I find it's best to brush your poodle out before bathing because any mats present in a dry coat will get worse when the coat is wet. How do you choose a shampoo? This depends on coat type and length, etc. Will you keep your TPOO in a show coat or a shorter trim like the Lamb or Miami? I like the Les Poochs shampoos but any good shampoo--Isle of Dogs, Les Poochs, Chris Christensen, etc.--and creme rinse will do, the latter being optional. Is drying with a hand dryer and warm heat ok? I don't use heat on my poodles but just a variable speed HV Dryer (the CC Raptor). What do I brush the coat with while drying? I first blow out most of the water before I start brushing. When the coat is halfway dry, I use a Pin Brush to separate the coat. When they're in the Miami trim, I focus on the topknot, bracelets, ears and tail pom. When the coat is almost dry, I run my Les Poochs Gold Slicker through the coat.

I have a feeling I need a buttercomb, some ice on ice, 7" shears (which ones exactly) and maybe a pin brush? This is a good idea! I like the Ice on Ice/grooming spray for daily brush outs and the Crown Royale #3 smells great! How much or how little scissoring you do depends on the clip you keep your TPOO in. You'll have to scissor the topknot, tail pom and bracelets if in a Miami, for example.I have NEVER trimmed a dogs coat with anything other than clippers. Is there a slicker I should get? I recommend the Les Poochs slickers although many seem to like the Chris Christensen Round Slicker. NOTE: There is a "group buy" going on now so you can get one at a discount price. The thread is at the top of this page. Why does everyone seem to go with pin brushes and not slickers? Some slickers can damage the coat, which is a consideration if your poodle is in a show coat. I actually like both tools and own multiple slickers/pin brushes.

I am just SO confused ...

Someone PLEASE help me?!?!

Rebecca

I hope that helps! You might also find this thread helpful: http://www.poodleforum.com/9-poodle-grooming/17374-grooming-101-groomers-q.html

Again, check out the Chris Christensen Group Buy if you're interested in any CC products at a discount. If you want the price list, just PM me an e-mail address and I'll fwd it to you.
http://www.poodleforum.com/9-poodle...com/9-poodle-grooming/18329-chris-christensen-group-buy-march-april-2012-a.html

 

[Kloliver]

Hi all, so I read through all of the pages of this thread and still don't feel comfortable in having answers to my questions. I am bringing home my toy poodle next week and want to have what most consider the "must haves" for a poodle.

I can see everyone LOVES the poodle buttercomb, but is it appropriate for a small toy? When do you use a comb like that?

I am just so lost. In the past with my golden retriever I just bathed, blowdried with my hand dryer while brushing the coat out with a $10 slicker and that was it! What the heck is the process with a poodle? Do you brush before bathing or just bathe? How do you choose a shampoo? Is drying with a hand dryer and warm heat ok? What do I brush the coat with while drying?

I have a feeling I need a buttercomb, some ice on ice, 7" shears (which ones exactly) and maybe a pin brush? I have NEVER trimmed a dogs coat with anything other than clippers. Is there a slicker I should get? Why does everyone seem to go with pin brushes and not slickers?

I am just SO confused ...

Someone PLEASE help me?!?!

Rebecca

Hi Rebecca,
I too am in the throes of poodle grooming supply madness. It's easy to get caught up in it. Poodles aren't that much more complicated, we humans just tend to make it that way. Also, most of us are just nuts about our furkids & indulge them & ourselves with retail goodies. Your list sounds great. Keep it simple & expand as u need.

Now if I cld follow my own advice *lol*