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I thought this was an interesting topic that needed it's own thread.

I'm a great believer in waiting until Poodles are older before they are bred. Certainly it is important to wait until at least age two since hips can not be certified by OFA until then. I know some breeders love using Pennhip because they can have hips certified as early as age 16 weeks. However, I have seen Poodles hips change as they grow and mature and I have seen hips that pass at 6 months actually test as borderline dysplastic by age 2.

Another reason to wait is to see what happens to the overall health of a line. There are many, many things that we can't test for in Poodles and taking a wait and see approach is prudent. I have called just about all of my puppy buyers now, so I feel that I can make this public knowledge:

My foundation bitch, Sabrina, bloated two weeks ago. She gave us a scare, but she is fine. However, I have made the painful decision to spay her daughter, Izze. Bloat is genetic and I could not in good conscious breed Izze knowing that I might be passing the bloat problem down to another generation of dogs and owners. Now Sabrina was around 5.5 yrs old when Izze was born. Had I run out and bred Sabrina right when she was 2 and bred Izze right when she was 2, I would have three generations of dogs on the ground before I realized that I had a problem.

The only time I could justify breeding a Poodle early is if a breeder has an older bitch and she really, really wants to breed to a great stud who is young. The time could quickly run out for this pairing.

However, I have seen breeder use 8 mnth old studs and 14 mnth old bitches whose only redeeming qualities seem to be that they are intact. Blech!
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Jak - I always liked you, you are such a rspectable man and I appreciate your straight forwardness and it was a well deserved recognition IMO :)
Bravo Olie I agree

BRP we are sick of the lies , your husbands post is here So he lives in CA ? and your in Utah ?:rolffleyes::wacko:

http://www.poodleforum.com/showthread.php?t=5178
I totally agree with Jak .

This is becoming ridiculous that I have to ban people because they can't be civil.
So remove me K?
Im waiting :)
OMG can we vote YES DO IT!!
Please !
Thanks redvelvet I guess this was coming all along you just forsced the issue.. Isnt this what happened to bijou as well everyone packed up thenm and then they were kicked off? Well kick me off now cause I am so done ...
We are not packing up against you!
All I am trying to say is be a mature adult and face up to what you have done!

Stop pretending like we are all in the wrong here! I am not saying you are completely in the wrong, but seriously, face up!

Stop feeling sorry for yourself, and just be an honest person
Wow... This is ridiculous and frankly embarassing for you BRP. If I were you I would remove myself before tarnishing my kennel name any further. It's a shame this has descended into such insanity.
Bravo Olie I agree

BRP we are sick of the lies , your husbands post is here So he lives in CA ? and your in Utah ?:rolffleyes::wacko:

http://www.poodleforum.com/showthread.php?t=5178
See other post ..
Wow... This is ridiculous and frankly embarassing for you BRP. If I were you I would remove myself before tarnishing my kennel name any further. It's a shame this has descended into such insanity.
I agree I cannot believe that this is happening I have asked to be removed..
I'm glad I can ad some humor to this thread, I quite amused myself lol

I would just like to say this is a really sad display of immaturity by bigredpoodle, to see someone who breeds the breed that we all love and adore act like a child. It saddens me.
I AM NOT REDVELVET !!! That is my husband that is in big trouble ..
I agree I cannot believe that this is happening I have asked to be removed..
Come on!!!!

I do not want to see you removed!!

this isn't a witch hunt!


grrrgghhh!!!


just face up and stop being childish, please!!
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I agree I cannot believe that this is happening I have asked to be removed..
It's called closing the browser and doing it yourself. And I didn't mean you were being embarassed. I meant you are embarassing yourself and your kennel!

I've enjoyed your contribution to this forum for the most part. But this deceptive behaviour by your husband (seemingly condoned by you) is really a shame.
Howa in the he.. am I being childish ..
Howa in the he.. am I being childish ..
Yikes... Seriously, step away from the computer!
Seriously how am I responsible for him ..
Howa in the he.. am I being childish ..
ok - you have had plenty of chances

please just go

you have clearly just demonstrated to the entire world your lack of maturity

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My wife is in town I'm at home and not having any one tell me what to say
I have a opinion and so does everyone else
I'm not sure if you realize this or not but this forum is public so anyone can read it even without signing up and signing in so unfortunately for you, everyone will know what's gone down here. If you want to leave on that note, that's up to you but I think you might want to at least just admit to what's gone on here and apologize for being deceitful.
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