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I thought this was an interesting topic that needed it's own thread.

I'm a great believer in waiting until Poodles are older before they are bred. Certainly it is important to wait until at least age two since hips can not be certified by OFA until then. I know some breeders love using Pennhip because they can have hips certified as early as age 16 weeks. However, I have seen Poodles hips change as they grow and mature and I have seen hips that pass at 6 months actually test as borderline dysplastic by age 2.

Another reason to wait is to see what happens to the overall health of a line. There are many, many things that we can't test for in Poodles and taking a wait and see approach is prudent. I have called just about all of my puppy buyers now, so I feel that I can make this public knowledge:

My foundation bitch, Sabrina, bloated two weeks ago. She gave us a scare, but she is fine. However, I have made the painful decision to spay her daughter, Izze. Bloat is genetic and I could not in good conscious breed Izze knowing that I might be passing the bloat problem down to another generation of dogs and owners. Now Sabrina was around 5.5 yrs old when Izze was born. Had I run out and bred Sabrina right when she was 2 and bred Izze right when she was 2, I would have three generations of dogs on the ground before I realized that I had a problem.

The only time I could justify breeding a Poodle early is if a breeder has an older bitch and she really, really wants to breed to a great stud who is young. The time could quickly run out for this pairing.

However, I have seen breeder use 8 mnth old studs and 14 mnth old bitches whose only redeeming qualities seem to be that they are intact. Blech!
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you are a crack up and you know it .. I cant believe taht you did that .. Funny girl ...
How could it possibly backfire? I have nothing to hide and I don't believe I should be afraid of anyone on this forum. I love to talk about poodles so people can call me if they want to (that's my cell phone number btw) - I also welcome presents in the mail (or visitors!) and besides, my home address information is listed in the phonebook anyway so no worries!! Iyam who Iyam!! :)
lmao i AM SERIOUS when I say you crack me up !

I am going to save your info if its ok with you ? I will send you something :D
lmao i AM SERIOUS when I say you crack me up !

I am going to save your info if its ok with you ? I will send you something :D
Wheeeeee! A present from Roxy!!! Make sure there are holes in the box so Enzo can breathe!! :lol: :pound: You are more than welcome to keep my info, just call before you come so I can pick up all the toy guts from the disemboweled stuffies in the living room before you get there! HAAAAA!
I do not agree that a faded red is apricot. A faded red takes on rust tones and an apricot takes on yellow tones. A faded red is still a red. If you have a faded red and an apricot side by side, they do look resemble on another in colour. trillium had an apricot and his colour was not remotely like
Holly's and she is a faded red.
Agree or don't agree I really don't care but genetically "Red" and Apricot Poodles are the SAME color. Just in different shades.

lmao at Roxy, you would know huh? :lol:
So you not brp Husband ?

I think I am confused what is your kennel name ?
I'm sorry I didn't believe being male or married or more than one dog would start such a clucking flurry of imaginations
I'm sorry I didn't believe being male or married or more than one dog would start such a clucking flurry of imaginations
Watch it buddy or these cluckers will cluck you up! :sinister:

I'm sorry I couldn't resist!
I'm sorry I didn't believe being male or married or more than one dog would start such a clucking flurry of imaginations
If you call us HENS one more damn time I'm going to get really pissed. No one around here said anything about your gender so stop referring to ours in the negative, got me?
I dont think of my hens in a negitive way but ok.....sorry
I dont think of my hens in a negitive way but ok.....sorry
Look maybe because you are a man you don't GET that calling women hens or saying that they are "clucking" is a bad or negative thing but I'm here to tell you not to say that to any other woman ever again. It's meant in a derogatory manner, the entire generalization of women talking in a group resembling a hen house is negative and you know it. Men say it because they want to insult women and that's it.
:rolffleyes:Wow i guess I am weird cause it did not bother me ! I kinda thought it was a funny way to put it:rolffleyes:
Purple cracked me up too !
Look maybe because you are a man you don't GET that calling women hens or saying that they are "clucking" is a bad or negative thing but I'm here to tell you not to say that to any other woman ever again. It's meant in a derogatory manner, the entire generalization of women talking in a group resembling a hen house is negative and you know it. Men say it because they want to insult women and that's it.
isn't that generalizing

shouldn't we get back onto topic
breeding age
This is sounding a lot like a hen house...
shall WE all leave phone numbers?
You know what we had a few members on here who did not give kennel name and guess what ?

:wacko:
isn't that generalizing

shouldn't we get back onto topic
breeding age
Are you a man? Did you say it? Get back to whatever you want just stop talking about the hens or I'm reporting it.
Redvelvet -that was an insensitive thing to say

And quite frankly, I'm getting sick of the games you are playing BRP,
SO STOP IT!
:rolffleyes:Wow i guess I am weird cause it did not bother me ! I kinda thought it was a funny way to put it:rolffleyes:
Purple cracked me up too !
Hmmmmm...

I wonder why you weren't bothered... such a hard question there.

IDK, maybe because he is your husband???

Correct me if I'm wrong,

but isn't Redvelvet's avatar the same as this dog on your website???



http://www.sherocstandardpoodles.com/images/Picture_0145.jpg


Your games are childish, and really quite pathetic
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Redvelvet -that was an insensitive thing to say

And quite frankly, I'm getting sick of the games you are playing BRP,
SO STOP IT!
I guess I am confused I did not realize I was playing games ...
I took alot of this as light hearted and as funny ... Some folks have a twisted sense of humor,,
Sorry If I offended you somehow ..
And so am I responsible somehow ? I am really confused here...Please splain ....
Wow, I didn't know where you were going with that Jak, but this thread just got interesting! No pulling the wool over your eyes. :)
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