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I think for a first litter the dog should be between 3 and 5 years old as like it was mentioned hips needs to be scored and eyes need to be clear and most signs of PRA show up between 4 & 6 years of age.

As for when to stop breeding I think no bitch should be bred after 8yo, for a dog 10yo.
 

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Yes I am afraid that they are more desirable... But you are comparing an apricot to a red there is no comparison .. A cafe to a brown no comparison..
If I were looking for either i would look to the parents and want one that is proven not to fade .. But then that is just me ...
Why would I want afaded brown or a faded red ?
A faded Brown is a Cafe and faded "Red" is an Apricot ;) They are the same color (brown/cafe or "red"/apricot) just in different shades/intensities.
 

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I do not agree that a faded red is apricot. A faded red takes on rust tones and an apricot takes on yellow tones. A faded red is still a red. If you have a faded red and an apricot side by side, they do look resemble on another in colour. trillium had an apricot and his colour was not remotely like
Holly's and she is a faded red.
Agree or don't agree I really don't care but genetically "Red" and Apricot Poodles are the SAME color. Just in different shades.

lmao at Roxy, you would know huh? :lol:
 

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I'm glad I can ad some humor to this thread, I quite amused myself lol

I would just like to say this is a really sad display of immaturity by bigredpoodle, to see someone who breeds the breed that we all love and adore act like a child. It saddens me.
 
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