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Ok, I am curious to see pics of what is called a "bad black". I have read about it, but it haven't found anything that is specific on what to look for to see if your black is a bad black or not. My thoughts from what I have read would be a black that is brownish colored and stays brownish colored without clearing to anything else (i.e. blue/silver), a black that has lots of white hairs mixed into the black hairs. Now, I realize that most American blacks do not stay ink black throughout their lives, they fade and do get white hairs mixed in. At least, that is what I have read in what I could find on info for blacks.
If anyone has pics of a "bad black" adult, that would be great. If you have found links to good info on it, that would be great.
Obviously, we have been going back and forth with Billy. When we got him at 4 months old, he had brown hairs around his muzzle and brown tint to the ends of his body hair. That brown tint has gone and the end of his muzzle is definitely a lighter, bluish color, as well as around his eyes. His coat is not as dark black as Ivy's, who has never had any brown tint to her hair anywhere at all. So, we question him being a "black" and know that his line carries the fading gene.
Grace, which we had thought may be a silver when we first got her as a youngster, but have long since felt her to be a gray or a blue. As some have said here, we have been leaning towards blue. In person, right now, she is a solid gray color all over except for her pack and top knot which is a bit darker gray. I believe she is going to clear to a nice blue color.
But, Billy, he had the brown that you would expect on a dog that is going to clear to blue as a pup. He definitely has a lighter muzzle which is a bluish color now and also the same color around his eyes. It seems like his face is starting to change as the color on his muzzle is spreading and bluer and the color around his eyes is new. I know I have read that some blues take a long time to change and can start their change later and not clear till 3 years old.
It would be nice to see what is considered a "bad black". Right now, Billy does not have white hairs mixed into his coat nor does he have any brown hue except for a bit on ends of his top knot in the sun. He is definitely dark except for the face as I mentioned. Obviously, we will know in time as Billy finishes maturing.
thanks for any thoughts or links.
If anyone has pics of a "bad black" adult, that would be great. If you have found links to good info on it, that would be great.
Obviously, we have been going back and forth with Billy. When we got him at 4 months old, he had brown hairs around his muzzle and brown tint to the ends of his body hair. That brown tint has gone and the end of his muzzle is definitely a lighter, bluish color, as well as around his eyes. His coat is not as dark black as Ivy's, who has never had any brown tint to her hair anywhere at all. So, we question him being a "black" and know that his line carries the fading gene.
Grace, which we had thought may be a silver when we first got her as a youngster, but have long since felt her to be a gray or a blue. As some have said here, we have been leaning towards blue. In person, right now, she is a solid gray color all over except for her pack and top knot which is a bit darker gray. I believe she is going to clear to a nice blue color.
But, Billy, he had the brown that you would expect on a dog that is going to clear to blue as a pup. He definitely has a lighter muzzle which is a bluish color now and also the same color around his eyes. It seems like his face is starting to change as the color on his muzzle is spreading and bluer and the color around his eyes is new. I know I have read that some blues take a long time to change and can start their change later and not clear till 3 years old.
It would be nice to see what is considered a "bad black". Right now, Billy does not have white hairs mixed into his coat nor does he have any brown hue except for a bit on ends of his top knot in the sun. He is definitely dark except for the face as I mentioned. Obviously, we will know in time as Billy finishes maturing.
thanks for any thoughts or links.