Anyone know anything about them? Good or bad that I should know about?
They are out of Las Vegas, NV
They are out of Las Vegas, NV
HAHAHPP I was going to say that also. I am like come on! Ordering puppy? ... makes me think this breeder operates on a BIG level.Well I have been to their website but have never talked with them in person. They have bred a lot of champions in all sizes but mainly Miniatures.
The only things I don't like is that they refer to buying a puppy as "placing an order" and that they have a lot of dogs.
HAHAH Yeah I know we would have fun !lol Rox I would love to meet you, I think we would have so much fun! :cheers:
They breed quite a bit but they have very nice dogs. I wonder what their puppy to champion ratio is.
LOL! I think that since she did not put "toy" in the ad, she is just advertising what MOST call a toy, a teacup as to possibley not confuse the "general public?" I have talked with her via email, she was very nice and I was inquiring about a toy when I spoke with her, I was very happy with the communications. The only reason I did NOT go with her is that she insisted I use a handler for my pup and I am sorry, but anyone can use a handler (if they can afford it) and finish ANY dog, but I wanted to show my own dogs, not have someone else do it.I was looking at this site again and i see more red flags
Listed under her toys she quotes this
"The AKC registers all POODLES 10 inches at the shoulder, or less, as a Toy Poodle. In the market place, you will find that full-sized Toys normally weigh 7 to 10 pounds and Tiny Toys weigh 4 to 6 pounds. True Teacups are 4 pounds and under, but have many health issues, including a shorter life span.
Note: There is no such thing as an AKC registered Teacup or Pocket Poodle; they are all registered as Toys."
then I see this ad .....
she states she has teacup poodles ........
I am confused !
"Teacup" or "Pocket" Poodles and "Royal Standard" Poodles
Responsible Poodle Breeders do not promote the sale of "teacup", "pocket" or "royal standard" Poodle puppies. This is a marketing ploy to sell the Poodle puppies for increased prices. Prospective Poodle puppy buyers interested in a small Toy Poodle or a large Standard Poodle can make their preferences known to their Poodle breeder. Most responsible Toy Poodle and Standard Poodle breeders are familiar enough with their family of dogs to provide information about size and other attributes.
That is very good information, I am glad you put it in. I was not saying I agree with the term at all, I think it is as fraudulent as saying you have a "warlock/king" Dobi.....I know there is no such thing, I was I guess trying to think of a reason that she would have the term on her site that is all. I am sorry if my post made it sound as if I agreed with this marketing ploy.Sorry but I'm with Roxy25. "Teacup" is a BYB and puppymiller buzz word used to bilk people out of more money. No reputable breeder would use the term unless they were informing the public about how wrong it is. The standard says under 10" and that's it! A toy is a toy is a toy, whether they are 9" or
3". I'm so sick of people trying to sell "teacup" anything. It's become a huge problem with Maltese and other breeds, but it seems like it started with Poodles. She should be discouraging this practice at all costs not giving into it or even capitalizing on it.
This page is about Maltese not Poodles but it still has some very good info on "teacups."
Taken for the PCA's website:
I agree her site could be better worded, but for me personally, much bigger red flags are when the breeders don't show their dogs, don't health test them, but still ask almost as much as the show breeders and base their prices on the gender and color."market place...placing an order... tiny toy pups available"
I think those are valid red flags. Just b/c a someone shows their dogs, it doesn't mean they are good breeders or something isn't up. I have no idea what this breeder is like, but she has some questionable content on her site. Puppies are not "orders," a reputable breeder cares about bettering the breed not what's going on in the "market place" and they don't advertise "teacup/tiny toy dogs." They might have smaller than average puppies, but they don't market them as "teacup/tiny toy."